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[Caspian]

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What's the average playtime to level 50 in FFXI~?

It took me 40 days....and note: lvl 50 in FFXI is just starting to crack the surface of the more in depth parts of the game.

[Tokitoki]

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I have played WoW as well, as do several of my friends. The things that were great about it, as said, was if you dont have the time to sit down and play for an extended period of time, you can easily get something done in WoW. I leveled fishing to 150 in a few hours when i was just trying to make some money and my hunter was lv 20 in a few more hours. But eventually i got tired of it. It just wasnt my type of game to play through it so quickly.

With FFXI, i have about 130 days logged into it. Im lv 74, along with 40 RNG adn 37 NIN and other various job levels. I have the majority of the equipment i want and i will continue to play the game after i level to 75. There are gods to kill, missions to complete for 3 separate nations, each a separate storyline along the way, not to mention the expansion missions (Zilart and Chains of Promathia) which i have to complete as well. There are still many areas in this game i have not explored, despite having the game since release.

And i do have to comment on the pulling "ranking." You dont need widescan in the majority of places you lvl, in fact, the only place you may want it is in the dunes since it is quite large. In most places you really only have to run a few steps and back, and for the fast pulling for a chain 5, THF's ability to flee is invaluable.

[Shipa.Ramuh]

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Hey guys! I used to play FFXI and got a Lv 50 WHM with ALOT of other jobs at 30+. Back then i could play for like 5h per day i think... Or maybe not, maybe thats just how i think it was. XD

Anyway im playing WoW right now and im getting bored.. Lv 55 and endgame seems to be instance runs all the time -.- Im not much into PvP either.. And i dont like to solo ALL THE TIME!

So should i come back too FFXI? Ive been asking myself that a few days now. I have about 3-4 hours when i got school, on like one day since the rest is alot of stuff going on (this is if i have homework to do) on friday-sunday i can play alot more. Should i come back? I can say right now i dont want to LFG alot so im going BRD, and i might go BST too as a second job to XP when i dont have too much time ^^

[Manatra]

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Question for Manatra.....Why are you defending WoW on an FFXI forum? Why don't you go to Blizzards forums and defend FFXI from the mindless 1337 speak of all the 12 year olds that play WoW?

I never once said FFXI was better than WoW, or that WoW is better than FFXI in this thread. I am simply correctly some misconceptions people have

Hey guys! I used to play FFXI and got a Lv 50 WHM with ALOT of other jobs at 30+. Back then i could play for like 5h per day i think... Or maybe not, maybe thats just how i think it was. XD

Anyway im playing WoW right now and im getting bored.. Lv 55 and endgame seems to be instance runs all the time -.- Im not much into PvP either.. And i dont like to solo ALL THE TIME!

So should i come back too FFXI? Ive been asking myself that a few days now. I have about 3-4 hours when i got school, on like one day since the rest is alot of stuff going on (this is if i have homework to do) on friday-sunday i can play alot more. Should i come back? I can say right now i dont want to LFG alot so im going BRD, and i might go BST too as a second job to XP when i dont have too much time ^^

Asking such a question on a message board like this full of FFXI fans is just going to get you only the slightly biased answer of "Yes". (nothing wrong with that, however)

If you read this thread you'll probably get a better answer: http://www.fohguild.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15618 (and just a note, there is some coarse language in the thread)

[Blood Red Poet]

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A lot of that is posted by biased people who left over 9 months ago and/or did nothing but camp HNMs and nothing fun.

[Grizzlebeard]

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Average playtime to 60 in WoW is 20 days.

Average playtime to 75 in FFXI can be measured at over 100 days.

Just because it takes longer to level isn't an indication of the difficulty of the game. Strict party requirements, severe xp penalties, lack of viable xp spots on US or JP primetime, and hours looking for party can all contribute to an extended levelling period.

I haven't played WoW and to be honest I don't see that changing, however, comparing FFXI to EQ, I can safely say the endgame content in FFXI is somewhere between extremely poor to non existent. The focus of Everquest, which I preferred, was to max your level on your chosen job and then raid challenging content obtaining items which would gradually improve you mixed with the Alternate Advancement xp route. FFXI seems to be all about levelling the next job/subjob, performing missions which yield little to no reward that artificially enforce level restrictions on you and the raid content consists of overcamped HNMs or Sky and Dynamis.

[WishMaster3K]

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Well grizzle, notice how no one on this forum talks about FFXI <-> EQ? thats because for all my love of FFXI, I acknowledge that somehow, EQ beats FFXI up and down in terms of popularity. Also, keep in mind that EQ was one of the MMORPGs that SE looked at when they resesarched how to build a MMORPG, so EQ automatically gets hats off.

Manatra, it seemed you picked apart the OP sentence by sentence, and despite whatever point made, doing something like that is simply rude. You've just killed 5 Tarus in the process, I hope you can sleep at night knowing that some Taru kids wont be getting cookies and milk before beddy-weddy. . .

And furthermore, the community in WoW is extremely, uh, 2-dimensional. I chalk that up to the LIMITED fan-base and their motives in the game. FFXI spans 5 continents and about almost all timezones. (North America, Asia, Europe, Australia and South America.) All players in FFXI are seeking something different, but with the expection of some HL ppl who treat the game as a job (ya know, the ones who slave to their LS's, and bitch when they feel their work goes unfounded), the game is mainly played to be enjoyed with new people from all over.

Can you say that about WoW? No, the elitist population of FFXI that is adamant about all HQ gear and being complete jerks to the rest of the population (about 15%) is about 85% in WoW because of the simple nature of the game.

Not knocking WoW, but it's mode of thought is PURELY based on the interaction parts, due to the insane amount of contact lacking from people only good at making RTS games. When you get to 60, you better be damned good at socializing to get things done, or you'll find yourself quickly bored. But then you realize that you can easily solo to 60 and never had to depend on anyone, so there is our Paradox.

WoW is nothing more than a glorified Chat Room where you can see what you actually are Role Playing as.

FFXI is an investment in time that you can look back after years and remember good times. (I've been playing FFXI for 1 year as of August 1st, and I remember all the cool ppl and fun I've had whenever I think about quitting.)

Does WoW hold that for fans? No. When someone in WoW quits, they really quit. We wont see a "Welcome back to World of Warcraft" campaign, ever, because the game is like an offline RPG in that it has nothing to offer once you max it out and hit New Game+ 5 times. . .

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Oh yeah, if you have any comments in retaliation, I asked that you keep them to yourself, because the last thing I want to do is have another WOW vs. FFXI on an FFXI board. If you want to bitch and moan, feel free to copy and paste my post on some stupid WoW forum, where the retarded adolesents give 3 shytes. And dont bother telling me someone took my post and is making a mockery of it, cause I honestly wont care what a bunch of people on a WoW forum think about me.

[Pounce]

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Oh yeah, if you have any comments in retaliation, I asked that you keep them to yourself, because the last thing I want to do is have another WOW vs. FFXI on an FFXI board. If you want to bitch and moan, feel free to copy and paste my post on some stupid WoW forum, where the retarded adolesents give 3 shytes. And dont bother telling me someone took my post and is making a mockery of it, cause I honestly wont care what a bunch of people on a WoW forum think about me.

Then why do you even post? The beauty of forums is that they promote discussion and debate.

In any case, both games have their pros and cons. But remember that one person's pro can be another person's con, and vice a versa.

A lot of what has been posted here is subjective opinion (including the person above - there, I retaliated, so sue me).

Do some research and you'll find some definite, objective facts (yes, there are) about the characteristics of both games. Then decide for yourself whether each fact is a pro or a con to YOU. Only YOU can do that for yourself, not someone on a forum.

And most importantly, don't let anyone tell you that you are "less of a player" or whatever BS for picking one game over another. That's what these are - games. They're nothing more than means of entertainment that will have absolutely no bearing on you as a person.

[Manatra]

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If you debate with someone that is good at debating, expect to have your points ripped apart, individually. It is not rude, and if your points have merit, they should be able to stand up to whatever arguement the person presents against them (though a good debater will be able to pick apart any point).

Well grizzle, notice how no one on this forum talks about FFXI <-> EQ? thats because for all my love of FFXI, I acknowledge that somehow, EQ beats FFXI up and down in terms of popularity. Also, keep in mind that EQ was one of the MMORPGs that SE looked at when they resesarched how to build a MMORPG, so EQ automatically gets hats off.

Manatra, it seemed you picked apart the OP sentence by sentence, and despite whatever point made, doing something like that is simply rude. You've just killed 5 Tarus in the process, I hope you can sleep at night knowing that some Taru kids wont be getting cookies and milk before beddy-weddy. . .

And furthermore, the community in WoW is extremely, uh, 2-dimensional. I chalk that up to the LIMITED fan-base and their motives in the game. FFXI spans 5 continents and about almost all timezones. (North America, Asia, Europe, Australia and South America.) All players in FFXI are seeking something different, but with the expection of some HL ppl who treat the game as a job (ya know, the ones who slave to their LS's, and bitch when they feel their work goes unfounded), the game is mainly played to be enjoyed with new people from all over.

Can you say that about WoW? No, the elitist population of FFXI that is adamant about all HQ gear and being complete jerks to the rest of the population (about 15%) is about 85% in WoW because of the simple nature of the game.

Not knocking WoW, but it's mode of thought is PURELY based on the interaction parts, due to the insane amount of contact lacking from people only good at making RTS games. When you get to 60, you better be damned good at socializing to get things done, or you'll find yourself quickly bored. But then you realize that you can easily solo to 60 and never had to depend on anyone, so there is our Paradox.

You're making some pretty far out opinions on a game you probably haven't played as much. But anyway...

Not knocking FFXI, but it's mode of thought is PURELY based on the interaction parts, due to practically everything requiring 6+ people to accomplish. When you hit 20, you better be damned good at socializing to get things done, or you'll find yourself quickly bored due to the fact no one will want to party with you.

See where I'm going? I can make far out generalizations as well

WoW is nothing more than a glorified Chat Room where you can see what you actually are Role Playing as.

On a more serious note, FFXI can be said to be a glorified chat room as well (though definitely not as bad as RO ). Considering the amount of time it takes many people to get parties and stuff. I've spent at least a third of my playtime just sitting in Jeuno waiting for someone to invite me, or for that Paladin/Ninja to log on so my party can go somewhere. So it does go both ways too

FFXI is an investment in time that you can look back after years and remember good times. (I've been playing FFXI for 1 year as of August 1st, and I remember all the cool ppl and fun I've had whenever I think about quitting.)

Does WoW hold that for fans? No. When someone in WoW quits, they really quit. We wont see a "Welcome back to World of Warcraft" campaign, ever, because the game is like an offline RPG in that it has nothing to offer once you max it out and hit New Game+ 5 times. . .

You won't see a "Welcome back to World of Warcraft" campaign ever, at least in the same form as SEs "Welcome back" campaign considering Blizzard doesn't delete your characters when you cancel and have no plans to delete your characters in the future. Though, as was shown by SEs "Welcome back" campaign, they don't actually delete your ID...

You see, here's my point. On everything that people have said about WoW, the same can mostly be said for FFXI. All it comes down to is personal preference. My personal preference just happens to be to play both.

You like FFXI? Good, then it's the game for you
You like WoW? Good, then it's the game for you

Like both? Well then subscribe to both, they're both equally rewarding experiences that you will enjoy. WoW is fun in it's own way, just like FFXI is fun in its own way. There are aspects of FFXI that are better than WoW, yes. There are aspects of WoW that are better than FFXI, yes. However, both games are fairly even in terms of how "good" they each are in their own little way.

What I can't stand, however, is people making false generalizations and/or opinions about one game over another. Which is probably what makes me look like I'm defending WoW right now.

[lun4tic]

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Read any forum out there; MMORPG.com, Allakhazam.com, Worldofwarcrafy.com, etc and you'll find that even the most harcore WoW player is questioning his/her choice of game to play. As we've seen there has been a lot that have even asked what FFXI is like, because they want to play it. All of them have mentioned in some way that WoW is becoming boring. The only people who don't think it's boring are the people so deep in the closet it's like somebody locked them in and threw away the key.

If you can't look at the two games and tell which is of more quality, just look at the forums.

[sushicide]

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Tarus > all

end of discussion :d

[Blackpanther]

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I've only played FFXI but my bud plays WoW... and from what i've seen, FFXI blows it out of the water in my opinion. I just never got too much of a thrill from warcraft games.. He argues with my other friend about EQ2 not comparing to Wow. Only thing he used against him was that in Eq2 the horses jump like they're stiff.. lol. But neither one of them has had the chance to expierence FFXI.

[Belgariadgospels]

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Too true... I played WoW for 6months and got bored... Have loved every FF game so far, so why not share my adventures with others ^^

[Blackpanther]

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im going to try to get my friend from wow to play FFXI.. I think he'll fall in love.

[Belgariadgospels]

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And can anyone think of a (reasonable) reason why he won't? ^^

But yeah, it is great for people to bring others into the wonderful and growing community that is FFXI