Would you think about adding in a camp board?

[Zamphire]

Re: Would you think about adding in a camp board?

From my experience, whenever the zone/area/camp has too much parties hunting for the same mobs, usually the parties race with each other, on who is pulling the mob faster, and killing the mob faster, etc. To keep the xp chain flow, have multiple pullers, puller whatever mobs that pop:

1) even if the mob is slightly below the party level (Tough).
2) over-hunt a little bit with (IT+).
3) mobs with nasty special moves that is not a favorite choice for xp parties.

Downtime is better than no exp. Keep the xp flowing.

Other situation is if other party arrives and camp on top of your party. I found that situation is rare in the level 40s and above, which players should know the FFXI party basic at that level. There is no advantage to camp on top of other party:

1) It creates lag.
2) Exp. will sucks for both parties.

It is a lose-lose situation. Usually a polite /tell and ask tell to leave should work. If /tell fails, then my suggestion is try to pull/kill mobs faster then other party. From my experience, the party which pull/kill slower usually leave the camp, disband, or it is too sucks to be a threat at all.

That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. I'd like to see something happen where this doesn't have to be done. To me this is a waist of time on both parties, and is nothing but frustrating.

[Hearshot]

Re: Would you think about adding in a camp board?

I highly doubt Gilseller xp parties would agree to participate either.

It would be like the Auto-Party lfg thing, its there but no one cares to use it... or knows what its for anyway.

Or Mentor icon, most people who use that aren't really fit to be mentors anyway. Don't get offended, i didn't say "all". >.>;

When you start placing so much responsibility in the hands of the player, it doesn't work out as you wish. There are too many jackholes playing.

simple "/sea (Area)" count how many parties your lvl... factor in how many parties can xp there at once... see if you fit in that equation and act accordingly. This takes 2 minutes.

[Zamphire]

Re: Would you think about adding in a camp board?

I highly doubt Gilseller xp parties would agree to participate either.

It would be like the Auto-Party lfg thing, its there but no one cares to use it... or knows what its for anyway.

Or Mentor icon, most people who use that aren't really fit to be mentors anyway. Don't get offended, i didn't say "all". >.>;

When you start placing so much responsibility in the hands of the player, it doesn't work out as you wish. There are too many jackholes playing.

simple "/sea (Area)" count how many parties your lvl... factor in how many parties can xp there at once... see if you fit in that equation and act accordingly. This takes 2 minutes.

Ok, this still doesn't work for sky, or even crawlers next at some points, or garliage citidale but thats just off the top of my head but ok, my idea doesn't work.

So what do you think we should do about ass holes stealing camps?

[nazlfrag]

Re: Would you think about adding in a camp board?

The ingame search function will tell you the parties in the area, their level range and who the leaders are. The rest is up to you. Preperation should avoid you trying to camp on top of someone. If you can't solve it through tells, use multiple pullers as outlined above, or use a different camp.

The claim system is a delicate balance that is easily upset by your suggestions, not to mention that the already overcrowded because they are popular campsites will now have a big sign there, making them even more popular and overcrowded. There are dozens of zones to level in that are usually dead quiet, something to encourage people to these zones is what is needed.

I suggest a billboard, with a map of Vana'diel similar to the Conquest map, where people could post campsites, in a fixed map-coordinate, level range, target mob format. Anyone could then look there for campsite information. I am not suggesting any sort of claim system, just a knowledge sharing in the community. Crawlers nest full? Don't know where to go? Now you could look it up!

Thing is, this exists already outside the game in numerous user created campsite guides. An ingame feature would be nice, but redundant. Still, something needs to be done to promote alternate campsites. It's up to the userbase though, not Square - they gave us more than enough campsites. It's us who choose to camp on top of each other.

[kuu]

Re: Would you think about adding in a camp board?

The ingame search function will tell you the parties in the area, their level range and who the leaders are. The rest is up to you. Preperation should avoid you trying to camp on top of someone. If you can't solve it through tells, use multiple pullers as outlined above, or use a different camp.

The claim system is a delicate balance that is easily upset by your suggestions, not to mention that the already overcrowded because they are popular campsites will now have a big sign there, making them even more popular and overcrowded. There are dozens of zones to level in that are usually dead quiet, something to encourage people to these zones is what is needed.

I suggest a billboard, with a map of Vana'diel similar to the Conquest map, where people could post campsites, in a fixed map-coordinate, level range, target mob format. Anyone could then look there for campsite information. I am not suggesting any sort of claim system, just a knowledge sharing in the community. Crawlers nest full? Don't know where to go? Now you could look it up!

Thing is, this exists already outside the game in numerous user created campsite guides. An ingame feature would be nice, but redundant. Still, something needs to be done to promote alternate campsites. It's up to the userbase though, not Square - they gave us more than enough campsites. It's us who choose to camp on top of each other.

This should again, be a skill not a feature.

Meaning S-E should neither endorse, sanction, acknowledge, nor prefer one camp site over another, in any and all zones.

The moment it does happem, you open up a can of worms from everything composed of GM calls, to tech support, to RP, to development, etc, etc, etc.

A player community, can chart, dot, and share what it wants. It is not S-E endorsed, therefore, they are free to tweak their services without baggage.

It is part of the "playing" If you can't handle disputes, don't get into them. You can't police subjective code of conducts.

This should be [GM]Dave top 10 hate list. I don't want to listen to 3 people that can't decide to cross the street at different intervals.

You don't "own" a camp site. I can muscle in if I want to, as long as I:
1: Don't mpk
2: Not be rude
3: Not Hold monsters