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  • #16
    Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

    Not allowing pixels to marry other pixels isn't exactly gay oppression.

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    • #17
      Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

      Well I assume that it will be put to Square Enix when the next set of questions are sent, and hopefully replied to.

      Perhaps save your bitter arguments about pixel inny-outty holes right and wrongs till then.

      Which FF Character Are You?

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      • #18
        Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

        People are discussing every other question. I'm not sure I see why this one should be different.

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        • #19
          Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

          Originally posted by Murphie
          Also, the general populace of the game seems to be opposed to it for reasons unknown.
          The general populace of the game is against in game marriage? Or same-sex in game marriage? Or same-sex marriage in real life? Of course, this is a completely unsupportable claim.

          Originally posted by Murphie
          It doesn't actually have any effect on them at all. They most likely wouldn't even know that two male characters were married.
          You may not like it, but the litmus test for morality is not "does it affect anyone other than myself in a negative way." Certainly, this is a good start, but it definitely falls short of being comprehensive.

          Originally posted by Murphie
          But for some reason it offends them on some deep level that they can't even explain fully why they think one grouping of pixels in an online game shouldn't be able to have a fake marriage to another similar grouping of pixels.
          I don't know if most people would be offended by "straight" marriage in game (which seems to be what you're saying from the way you said this). Not to mention, this is a broken proposition anyway. Are they offended because they can't explain? Or, is this really two statements? 1) People are offended by in game marriage, and 2) people can't explain why they are offended by in game marriage.

          Originally posted by Murphie
          Maybe they are deeply homophobic because they are in the closet themselves.
          Guess you weren't talking about "straight" marriage in game (see directly above).
          HUGE PROBLEMS WITH THIS STATEMENT...
          1) Against in game marriage =/= homophobic
          2) Against same sex marriage =/= homophobic

          homophobic = scared of homosexuals (right?)

          I can't say whether true homophobes are closet homosexuals or not. Don't know if I even believe in homosexuals, as opposed to acts of homosexuality.

          Originally posted by Murphie
          Maybe they are deeply homophobic because they are uneducated.
          I probably agree with you on this one, though I doubt we agree on the nature of the education. Though, I would probably say people like this are "scared of homosexuality" as opposed to "scared of homosexuals".

          Originally posted by Murphie
          Maybe it's just because they are jerks.
          Hmm... homophobes are jerks... possibly. I think they're scared (see definition of "homophobe").

          Let me see if I can reinterpret these statements as they were probably intended:

          1) People who are against same sex marriage are closet homosexuals.
          2) People who are against same sex marriage are uneducated.
          3) People who are against same sex marriage are jerks.

          If this is what you are implying (not a huge leap from your post), I request an apology. I will not go so far as to say that you truly said these things, especially because you qualified all of them with "maybe," but I really hope you are not promoting this kind of intolerance and obtuseness in this thread.
          Last edited by Bricklayer; 07-28-2006, 01:34 AM.
          Character: Bricklayer
          Server: Ramuh
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          • #20
            Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

            At the end of the day, homosexuality is officially frowned upon in Japan, and that attitude will spill over into the game. Therefore, same-sex weddings will not happen.

            Any other comments about sexuality are bound to offend someone, so please remember that in this thread - you never know who you will be upsetting.


            Originally posted by Aksannyi
            "As a RDM, it should irk you to the depths of your soul when a mob had the audacity to buff itself in front of you."

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            • #21
              Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

              I'm not going to debate this point with you, Bricklayer. But thanks for your insight.

              edit: Or rather, I'm not going to debate it with you here, as this isn't the proper place for it. I didn't make my reasons clear enough in this intial post. ><;

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              • #22
                Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

                Originally posted by Murphie
                People are discussing every other question. I'm not sure I see why this one should be different.
                Odd - seemed to be just posts egging each other on, I do apologise.

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                • #23
                  Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

                  Thanks Murphie. I just want to show how the comments you made are likely to offend intelligent, educated people who do not support same sex marriage in or out of game. I'm really not looking for a debate on this issue either. I just hope that people can talk about this issue (and any other issue) with tolerance and respect on both sides.
                  Character: Bricklayer
                  Server: Ramuh
                  31 RDM/ 23 BLM/ 20 WHM

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                  • #24
                    Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

                    If it helps any (it probably doesn't) my response wasn't voiced in the way I would have liked to. It was in haste, and in response to someone egging me on. So, not my finest moment.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

                      Its funny, all this talk over same sex marriage, consider this...

                      My real life wife plays this game with me, and she plays a female Taru and I play a Galka. Now that is a scary wedding proposal, but it would be allowed !!

                      hehe

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                      • #26
                        Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

                        I (a tall Elf) married a Taru ingame...
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                        Last edited by Kirsteena; 07-28-2006, 02:20 AM.


                        Originally posted by Aksannyi
                        "As a RDM, it should irk you to the depths of your soul when a mob had the audacity to buff itself in front of you."

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                        • #27
                          Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

                          The marriages that always have me scratching my head are when people with real life partners get married to someone else ingame. I've seen more than a few of these couplings turn bad especially when they've ended up causing issues for the rl partners. The whole virtual relationship scene can be a minefield of emotions for people who aren't mentally equipped to handle an adult relationship.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

                            I'm in for same sex marriage, its just think about the children, could screw with their innocence and natural perspective n' stuff like that.
                            Last edited by The_Hero; 07-28-2006, 08:42 AM.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

                              In SWG.. i've only run into women who have done it..
                              Ahh, the irony of this statement.. Still, gotta forgive the two guys for wanting a bit of girl on-girl action. Sad thing, each one probably thinks the other person is irl a female lesbian, and theyre pulling the wool over her eyes.

                              Yeah let them happen.. can't wait to see all the Mithra 'girl-and-girl' couples. Sure you're girls. Suuure...

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                              • #30
                                Re: Consider Same-Sex Marriage

                                I just find it funny, that this question cant come up with out someone going "omg same sex mariage eewww" and then throwing up their cross or something. I hate any kind of sinceless opprestion, I find it to be stupid.
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