Consider Same-Sex Marriage

[Skoal]

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What are Galkas, male or female or neither? I forget. If they would let same in game sex marriages, just think of all the yahoos that would be signing up for mithra marriage. It would suck for the people who really wanted to get married. Getting married in a game is not my style, but it is part of the game. Two hume males getting married isn't going to stop me from doing anything in game. This is a game, right?

[Mazon]

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I just like to keep it real.

Keeping it real in a fantasy world ...


Anyways, moving on. Although it will never be implemented into the game, I have no problems with same-sex marriages in or out of the game.

[Telal]

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Personally, I think blocking same sex marriages in a game, is more stupid than blocking them IRL.

I was so ashamed of the state I live in when they recently outlawed same sex marriage. On things more than morallity, people in the US have a right to be happy. If that someone is homosexual, they don't automatically fork over their rights to happiness, that's just stupid.

Same sex couples aren't doing anything negative to the social structure of the nation, or World for that matter. Blocking same sex marriage in a video game, is pretty sillly, as they are just pixels, colorful dots on my monitor. Sure i play a male, my wife plays a female, and our friend (Murphie) who is a guy, also plays a male.

but with the 'cross gender' characters some people have (and i have played many female characters), how many in game marriages being a pixilated female and a pixilated male, are "same sex" players outside of the game.

People need to stop being so critical of others, in all asepcts of life (be it walking down the street, shopping, or ina video game). Let people do what makes them happy as long as it isnt' harming the game, community, society at large, and you have no problems.

[Ellipses]

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My question that appears largely off-topic but is actually seditiously on-topic:

Is there an age restriction on the in-game marriages? Or is everybody just cool with 13-year-olds getting married?

[Skoal]

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As far I know there is a level restriction and thats about it. Good point Ellipses.

[Rai]

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no, there is one true purpose to marriage - the creation of a stable and nurturing environment to facilitate the perpetuation of the species.

I think the whole marriage thing in this game is silly and a waste of time.

[Kirsteena]

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That is actually a very interesting question there - because there is undoubtedly a load of 13 year olds playing the game...





/shudders.

The only rescrition as I recall is you have to be level 20, and rank 3 for certain places (Chateau is the one I remember obviously.)

[LyonheartLakshmi]

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Personally, whether individual players are for or against same-sex marriages is immaterial to me. True, this is a fantasy game that doesn't have to mirror real life. However, I'd rather not have this fantasy game used for making political statements.

Flip side: not allowing same-sex marriages is also a political statement. You can't win either way. Lets just chuck the marriage system altogether. If you want to "get married", have both players level Goldsmithing and create signed rings for each other.

[forster]

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Exactly, the question has to be asked first before getting heated.

[Zamphire]

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Personally, whether individual players are for or against same-sex marriages is immaterial to me. True, this is a fantasy game that doesn't have to mirror real life. However, I'd rather not have this fantasy game used for making political statements.

Flip side: not allowing same-sex marriages is also a political statement. You can't win either way. Lets just chuck the marriage system altogether. If you want to "get married", have both players level Goldsmithing and create signed rings for each other.

Actually you dont have to level Goldsmithing. There's a quest in the Sandy Castle, talk to Havlar, about finding a bride for the prince. If you find the person he's looking for you recieve a Castor's Ring for males and Polax Ring (spelling may be off) for females. This ring is lvl 1 RARE/EX. But if you use a Cyclone Crystal on it, you in effect sign it and it because tradeable. I've given my wife one as an engagment ring. As far as I know I've never heard of anyone failing this recipe, even with absolutly no crafting skills. I personally have Gold at 0.

[Balfree]

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Edit your character dat and do anything you like ;-)

Im supportive of same-sex marriage

[Illuen]

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no, there is one true purpose to marriage - the creation of a stable and nurturing environment to facilitate the perpetuation of the species.

I think the whole marriage thing in this game is silly and a waste of time.

So are you say that sterile heterosexuals should not be allowe marraige either?
As it comes down to it, Marriage is a pledge of love, and in reality, it no longer has much to do with perpetuating an already overcrowded species. If marriage was only to populate the species, then you would not allow people who are sterile, from a birth defect, and accident or *gasp* of their own choice to marry. And with as many children in the world that are up for adoption, do you not think that a gay couple could be just as caring as any other couple? Many studies have indicated that children raised by homosexual couples are pretty much indistinguishable from children raised by heterosexual couples.

[Raydeus]

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Until same gender marriage is legalized in Japan I see no reason to include it in-game.

People might think not allowing it is wrong but that's the way the Japanese culture is, and the game is Japanese.

If people try to impose their culture where same gender marriages are allowed on a game developed by people who's culture doesn't allow that to happen... Then pro-same gender marriage in-game people are the same as people who wants to impose a no same gender wedding on them in real life.


To make it short I'm against trying to impose one's culture on other people so I'm against anyone outside Japan trying to make cultural changes to the game.



Although personally I'm not pro or against same gender marriages, what people does with their lives or who they decide to marry doesn't concern me at all.

[Thoris]

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i could careless in the game, but make gay amrriage legal in real life

Double Post Edited:
My parents are very old fashoned and str8 but i am a gay guy. there is nothing wrong with me and i have been with my other half for over 2 years. I plan on getting married ( if it becomes legal, Damm bush) and adopting a girl from china and a Dutch boy ( since i am dutch)

[Macht]

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Well tossing my statement, this should be intresting, but as far as RL and same-sex marriages I got no problems with. They can have their fun and benefits of marriages in a legal standpoint for all I care, some are actually pretty cool people.

Now as far as in-game goes, this is an RPG if you haven't grasped the concept it means it is a Role Playing Game. What happens in the game isn't real the game provides many things that exist in real life simply to provide more tools for players to create a role (Not to create just any role mind you) and have the aspects actually have a trail or evidence of existing. The only thing in the game you take with you is the commradery and friendships made. Those are affinities that even with it being "just a game" you will take with you as real in the real world.

In RL yes Marriage for humans has the moral connections to monogomy, not the purpose of reproduction. Which is kind of an Irony when the two just divorce and marry two other people, it's no more then a stone throw away from polygomy but in a social view they'll accept that over actual polygomy. It is the courting and creating the amorous environment that has the function and goal of reproduction & pleasure. In my opinion this is why it gains so much oppresion, a guy courting a guy or girl courting a girl only has the focus of pleasuring.

In the game however because of it being a Role Playing Game and the characters (Adventurers, Heros, Travelers, Mercenary, etc..) by SE's own intension and created design are supose to possess of what some people would probably state as an Ideal Moral Fiber. The story line has none of the player choosable races as being villans and even the 'villan' like jobs in this world have some good moral qualities. This does not care one bit of actual person's behavior outside of the game or actual age outside of the game (Within reason however, if the GMs are aware of a players true age and such they may restrict certain things such as the fake marriage). To clarify I'm not saying that homosexuality isn't moral, but I'm stating that heterosexuality carries more weight in terms of moral then homosexuality does in the current cultural views.


For me in real life people that are homosexual can have fun and do whatever I wouldn't care. Having such behavior supported in game would kind of dissillusion the fantasy for me and draw away intrest. I could care less what gender anyone is in RL, a guy could be playing a Hume Male and a guy could be playing a Mithra and marry. For all my focus and illusion I'd only matter about the fantasy and that would be that a Hume Male married a Mithra, I'm sorry but none of my fantasies ever have a Hume Male married a Hume Male. I seldomly even considers the idea of a Mithra married a Mithra, most often my fantasies support a Male married a Female nothing else.