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I'm posting this mostly for future reference when Questions are going to ever be submitted to SE again.
A lot of things have been adjusted in regards to BST, PUP, SMN and DRG over the last year, but regardless of all this, these jobs are not always welcomed in FFXI "endgame" content. In fact, some of these jobs are actively discouraged from it on a regular basis. I even know of endgame LSes that turn away Summoners and discourage them from coming to events, which I cannot comprehend.
What plans does SE have to improve pet jobs to make them more welcomed in endgame content? These jobs generally work harder than many to get to 75 and only to find out that other jobs are more preferred or that they'll never get to be these jobs in high level content at all, which is rather disheartening.
Note: Guys, for the love of all that is sacred, don't turn this into the "What's wrong with SMN" topic, we've had plenty of them. Go beat that dead horse on the SMN forum. If you must, must, must beat the dead horse, at least include the other pet jobs in your discussion.
Just as a point of reference. I recently had a BST friend told by thier LS leader they are never to be seen in Sky as BST, ever. Thier reason is that they don't want members thinking they can show up as a pet job to events. Funny since the leader of this LS will look for any excuse to pull out his THF, but I digress. He has a really snotty outlook on pet jobs. I mean, really, what jobs are more capable of sponsoring KS 99s than the ones most capable of soloing?
That would be BST, PUP, DRG, SMN and BLM for the most part. They're they ones that solo most commonly, anyway, and four of them have pets. BSTs are commonly used to manage link mobs for pop NMs like Hakutaku or Alastor Antlion. PUP and DRG do all right in Salavage, most of these jobs are no slouch in Limbus or Dynamis, either.
The problem isn't completely perception, though, some of these jobs aren't given roles for endgame beyond the one-dimensional DD or healer roles.
But really, pet job players work as hard - if not harder - to get to 75 than the rest of the jobs out there. Its a slap in the face enough to endure all the myth and lack of invites on a job like BST and then not be welcomed in most endgame content when you hit the end of the road. Even worse is to be made to endure a job you enjoy far less just to supplant your pet job.
I mean really, it took me forever just to find one job on my Tarutaru I liked more than BST to take it to endgame and I'm levelling RDM on the side just to throw my 75 BRD's power in check so I can consistantly go RDM or SCH instead. I love SCH and like RDM OK, but that's an awfully political thing to have to do.
But here I am doing it because I know if I just put BRD and BST down on an endgame shell app, BST would NEVER be seen or welcomed and I'd just be using BRD to get stuff I wanted for BST. BRD is just too powerful and desired in endgame shells, everyone wants one, no one wants to be it. I hate it at endgame, it bores me to tears. Its pretty clear why no one wants to be one at endgame, even though everyone wants one. I just realized it three years before most people did and quit.
Still, while I accept my BST will likely never set foot in most endgame content, that shouldn't mean I have to like that fact. What about the players that might only level pet jobs? Just like some people focus on mage jobs, or others focus on melee, there are people that play pet jobs just because they like them.
At any rate, something needs to be done to make these jobs more welcomed. This is one of those cases where the much-vaunted flexibility of FFXI becomes its own bane.
A lot of things have been adjusted in regards to BST, PUP, SMN and DRG over the last year, but regardless of all this, these jobs are not always welcomed in FFXI "endgame" content. In fact, some of these jobs are actively discouraged from it on a regular basis. I even know of endgame LSes that turn away Summoners and discourage them from coming to events, which I cannot comprehend.
What plans does SE have to improve pet jobs to make them more welcomed in endgame content? These jobs generally work harder than many to get to 75 and only to find out that other jobs are more preferred or that they'll never get to be these jobs in high level content at all, which is rather disheartening.
Note: Guys, for the love of all that is sacred, don't turn this into the "What's wrong with SMN" topic, we've had plenty of them. Go beat that dead horse on the SMN forum. If you must, must, must beat the dead horse, at least include the other pet jobs in your discussion.
Just as a point of reference. I recently had a BST friend told by thier LS leader they are never to be seen in Sky as BST, ever. Thier reason is that they don't want members thinking they can show up as a pet job to events. Funny since the leader of this LS will look for any excuse to pull out his THF, but I digress. He has a really snotty outlook on pet jobs. I mean, really, what jobs are more capable of sponsoring KS 99s than the ones most capable of soloing?
That would be BST, PUP, DRG, SMN and BLM for the most part. They're they ones that solo most commonly, anyway, and four of them have pets. BSTs are commonly used to manage link mobs for pop NMs like Hakutaku or Alastor Antlion. PUP and DRG do all right in Salavage, most of these jobs are no slouch in Limbus or Dynamis, either.
The problem isn't completely perception, though, some of these jobs aren't given roles for endgame beyond the one-dimensional DD or healer roles.
But really, pet job players work as hard - if not harder - to get to 75 than the rest of the jobs out there. Its a slap in the face enough to endure all the myth and lack of invites on a job like BST and then not be welcomed in most endgame content when you hit the end of the road. Even worse is to be made to endure a job you enjoy far less just to supplant your pet job.
I mean really, it took me forever just to find one job on my Tarutaru I liked more than BST to take it to endgame and I'm levelling RDM on the side just to throw my 75 BRD's power in check so I can consistantly go RDM or SCH instead. I love SCH and like RDM OK, but that's an awfully political thing to have to do.
But here I am doing it because I know if I just put BRD and BST down on an endgame shell app, BST would NEVER be seen or welcomed and I'd just be using BRD to get stuff I wanted for BST. BRD is just too powerful and desired in endgame shells, everyone wants one, no one wants to be it. I hate it at endgame, it bores me to tears. Its pretty clear why no one wants to be one at endgame, even though everyone wants one. I just realized it three years before most people did and quit.
Still, while I accept my BST will likely never set foot in most endgame content, that shouldn't mean I have to like that fact. What about the players that might only level pet jobs? Just like some people focus on mage jobs, or others focus on melee, there are people that play pet jobs just because they like them.
At any rate, something needs to be done to make these jobs more welcomed. This is one of those cases where the much-vaunted flexibility of FFXI becomes its own bane.
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