Oh god I woike up and was in my moghouse

[Squiggs]

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The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms for a New Age - FFXIAH.com

Check out this thread. DNC is my favorite job and it can do well against higher tier mobs, but level correction (the problem with all one-handed DDs) is a huge hit to our offensive output. However, one handed level correction is supposedly being looked at for possible adjustments (fingers crossed).

[Malacite]

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If they do that (which I agree they should) they'd have to buff 2-handed again just a bit to compensate.

[cidbahamut]

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If they do that (which I agree they should) they'd have to buff 2-handed again just a bit to compensate.

Are you really that stupid?

[Malacite]

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Someone needs a history lesson.

Remember how stupidly OP 1 handers were with haste and dual wield before SE realized 2 handers suck? Let's just blindly repeat that by making 1 handers blatantly superior again without any sort of adjustments to 2 handers to keep them on equal footing, because that would be great for balance.

Stop talking out your ass already.

[Armando]

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Remember how stupidly OP 1 handers were with haste and dual wield before SE realized 2 handers suck?

It was really just the Dual Wield, and even that didn't save THF.

[Ketaru]

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Remember how stupidly OP 1 handers were with haste and dual wield before SE realized 2 handers suck?

I remember WAR and NIN and that's about it. But mostly WAR. And WAR is still one of the top DDs. Just using different weapons now.

[Firewind]

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Someone needs a history lesson.

Remember how stupidly OP 1 handers were with haste and dual wield before SE realized 2 handers suck? Let's just blindly repeat that by making 1 handers blatantly superior again without any sort of adjustments to 2 handers to keep them on equal footing, because that would be great for balance.

Stop talking out your ass already.

So buff one handers but buff two handers even more?

[Malacite]

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I believe I said "just a bit" - not talking about going back to like, the 1st 2H update they did which removed level correction entirely and we had 1:1 stat ratios on top of that lol...

Seriously overreact much? Just saying if they reduce the correction penalties (and it would depend on how much) it could really skew things. NIN & DNC were already OP as hell in Abyssea, and still quite good outside of that. Do you really want to see a return of /NIN ONRY! ? I don't. Granted I stopped playing a little after the 95 update, but pretty sure XI still revolves around abusing the hell out of haste which is what DW enables ridiculously well, particularly at 90+ now that DW3 can be gained from /NIN (DW is essentially haste that reduces your TP anyway... so DW3 basically = passive 25% haste).

[cidbahamut]

Re: Oh god I woike up and was in my moghouse

Someone needs a history lesson.

Remember how stupidly OP 1 handers were with haste and dual wield before SE realized 2 handers suck? Let's just blindly repeat that by making 1 handers blatantly superior again without any sort of adjustments to 2 handers to keep them on equal footing, because that would be great for balance.

Stop talking out your ass already.

Two-hander damage: n
One-hander damage: n-1

Mal's solution:
Two-hander damage: n+1
One-hander damage: n

Sane solution:
Two-hander damage: n
One-hander damage: n

[Armando]

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I believe I said "just a bit" - not talking about going back to like, the 1st 2H update they did which removed level correction entirely and we had 1:1 stat ratios on top of that lol...

To be honest I feel they went about it all wrong to begin with. If the problem was Dual Wield and multi-hit weapons, the sane responses would've been to nerf either of those things or add equivalents for 2-handers. Instead they made 2-handers work differently so of course they can't balance them with 1-handers now (just like they can't balance magic or ranged attack with melee), and now the response is to make 1-handers work differently too?

No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.

[Yellow Mage]

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No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.

QFT.

[Malacite]

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XI was never really balanced well to begin with, so I'm just suggesting based on my own experiences with the game. I mean ideally yeah, they should both have the same level correction penalties and adjust the weapons themselves accordingly but we all know that's never going to happen.

That reminds me, didn't they recently do something about the delay between ranged attacks and that stupid error that would pop up if you hit the command again too soon? It always irked me that haste & slow did nothing for RA, but then they added Snapshot which was essentially pointless because of A) Manual input and B) that damned delay and C) Rangers & Corsairs have paper armor (hell most jobs have paper armor in XI, another point for XIV )

[Firewind]

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I'm more on favour of buffs than nerfs if I'm honest. Buffing one handers so they are equal to two handers wouldn't be game breaking if they did it properly (but this IS SE we're talking about).

Problem is is that it will require an entire overhaul of the TP system in order to do it because even if Dual Wield and Two Hand damage was normalised, Dual Wielders would still be feeding more TP on average purely due to the sheer number of hits one can throw out. Look at a DNC with Sabre Dance up, they literally never stop hitting it's insane.

[Malacite]

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I thought the change to AGI fixed that? IIRC, THF and I think DNC as well can actually raise their AGI high enough (in tandem with Subtle Blow) to essentially give 0 TP.

Again, it's DW & Haste abuse that concern me far more. But, the chances of me playing XI ever again are minimal anyway so...


Would have loved to have had Rune Fencer 4+ years ago.