New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

[Malacite]

[dev1025] New Battlefields



[dev1025] New Battlefields

• New Burning Circle Notorious Monster (BCNM) battlefields will be added.
• New orbs will be obtainable from the Port Jeuno NPC Shami in exchange for High Kindred’s crests.
• Locations, entry requirements, and other conditions for the new battlefields will be as follows:
  
  Orb TypePriceLocationRestrictionsZelos Orb30 High Kindred’s CrestsBoneyard GullyLevel: AnyParticipants: 6Bearclaw PinnacleLevel: AnyParticipants: 6Bia Orb50 High Kindred’s CrestsMine Shaft #2716Level: AnyParticipants: 6Monarch LinnLevel: AnyParticipants: 6Phobos Orb30 Kindred’s CrestsSpire of HollaLevel: AnyParticipants: 6Spire of DemLevel: AnyParticipants: 6Spire of MeaLevel: AnyParticipants: 6Deimos Orb50 Kindred’s CrestsSpire of VahzlLevel: AnyParticipants: 6
• Players victorious in the battlefields at the Spires of Holla, Dem, Mea, and Vahzl will receive items that may, in turn, be traded to the NPC Shami to claim rewards.

*Time limits for the battlefields above are currently under consideration. An announcement will follow when these details are finalized.

-----
If you wish to discuss or submit feedback on this topic, please use the [dev1025] tag.

[Neverslip]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

So much to do... so little time to do it..... . . . . ... .

[Elwynn]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

Formatting fail.

Orb Type - Price - Location - Restrictions
Zelos Orb - 30 High Kindred’s Crests
- Boneyard Gully - Level: Any - Participants: 6
- Bearclaw Pinnacle - Level: Any - Participants: 6
Bia Orb - 50 High Kindred’s Crests
- Mine Shaft #2716 - Level: Any - Participants: 6
- Monarch Linn - Level: Any - Participants: 6
Phobos Orb - 30 Kindred’s Crests
- Spire of Holla - Level: Any - Participants: 6
- Spire of Dem - Level: Any - Participants: 6
- Spire of Mea - Level: Any - Participants: 6
Deimos Orb - 50 Kindred’s Crests
- Spire of Vahzl - Level: Any - Participants: 6

Wow, and I thought it was annoying to have to keep going back through Palborough Mines all the time. I go to Monarch Linn for a weekly quest and it takes most of half an hour to get there even without the zone level caps.

[Murphie]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

Most of them aren't too bad to get to, though. Not that I wouldn't be more than happy for them to create an NPC (or just use Shami or his brother) to port you to the BCNM.

[Malacite]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

Boneyard Gully especially...


Fuck Paradamo Tor & The Miasma. Though AFAIK you only need to climb it for the ENMs/CoP Missions, but even so I just hate Attohwa Chasm with a passion. All the ENM battlefields are annoying to get to really. And of course, this naturally results in artificially high rates on any sellable loot that comes from these BCs.

[Bigfish]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

Boneyard Gully especially...


Fuck Paradamo Tor & The Miasma. Though AFAIK you only need to climb it for the ENMs/CoP Missions, but even so I just hate Attohwa Chasm with a passion. All the ENM battlefields are annoying to get to really. And of course, this naturally results in artificially high rates on any sellable loot that comes from these BCs.

I'm always going to remember CoP as the expansion where everything was designed to intentionally annoy the player, from Doom to the level caps to the ledges to the slopes to the expell you from the BC moves to the farm items to make the fight easier (or possible) to True Sight EVERYWHERE.

[DakAttack]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

I'm always going to remember CoP as the expansion where everything was designed to intentionally annoy the player, from Doom to the level caps to the ledges to the slopes to the expell you from the BC moves to the farm items to make the fight easier (or possible) to True Sight EVERYWHERE.

CoP is the greatest example of storytelling in an MMO to date. So they didn't hold your hand the whole way through? Just complain, and maybe they'll make everything easier for you. Pro Tip: they already did.

[Murphie]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

Thus allowing a greater portion of the player base to access the amazing story. Yeah, removing annoying roadblocks that have little to do with the amazing story was a real dumb move on SE's part.

[Armando]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

CoP is the greatest example of storytelling in an MMO to date. So they didn't hold your hand the whole way through? Just complain, and maybe they'll make everything easier for you. Pro Tip: they already did.

What CoP did right:
1) Amazing story and storytelling
2) Difficult boss fights that required strategy

What CoP did wrong:
1) Forcing absurd amounts of time-consuming travel on the player
2) Horrid dungeon design.

CoP dungeons failed because SE designed them like they did every other zone in the game. Filling every corner of a dungeon with IT++ mobs is not good design. You'd blow 1-2 hours trying to get through a bunch of EXP mobs on steroids and very little time actually solving puzzles or interacting with the dungeon itself. And while having items to weaken the boss was cool, the time needed to farm them was not. So you're looking at a minimum of 1 hour of prep work farming boss items, 30-45 minutes of travel time, 1-2 hours of getting through the dungeon, and 15-60 minutes of boss fight depending on the mission and how many times you fail. And even if all 6 members stuck with it for 4 hours, if you couldn't get past the boss you'd have to do it all over again some other day. That's not counting all the running around and cutscenes you had to do between battlefields.

FFXI's engine is pretty limited so I wasn't expecting D&D Online type dungeons with platforming and lots of traps. But if they were going to put such bullshit along the way, the least they could've done is throw in a checkpoint once you reach the boss room so anyone that's gotten that far can just warp there from the dungeon entrance if and only if they're with someone doing the mission or are doing the mission themselves. I liked how getting to boss fights in ToAU was much quicker, but ToAU sucked because a party of 75's faced no difficulty until the end and JP midnight waits are bullshit.

[cidbahamut]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

People always go on and on about CoP have ZOMGAWESOMESTORY. Granted I haven't finished it, but so far it hasn't been particularly exceptional. It's not bad, it just gets a lot more praise than I'd expect. Personally I find the nation missions a tad more interesting at times, as they're basically a slow and steady revelation that all three nations are basically assholes.

[Armando]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

People always go on and on about CoP have ZOMGAWESOMESTORY. Granted I haven't finished it, but so far it hasn't been particularly exceptional. It's not bad, it just gets a lot more praise than I'd expect. Personally I find the nation missions a tad more interesting at times, as they're basically a slow and steady revelation that all three nations are basically assholes.

CoP only gets awesome at the end, when everything suddenly makes sense and you get to fight in what's probably the best BC area in the game. In the meantime you get to enjoy Prishe being stupid, Nag'molada being a dick, and those three Tarutaru being the most obnoxious things ever.

[Grizzlebeard]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

Preferred the Zilart storyline and I loved Sky as a zone rewarded for quest progression. Sea, while gaining access was a big, "Fuck yeah!" never impressed me as a zone (indoor and outdoor) and the whole quest chain felt like a tedious grind with characters I didn't give two fucks about.

[Murphie]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

I liked Jabbo.

[Bigfish]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

CoP is the greatest example of storytelling in an MMO to date. So they didn't hold your hand the whole way through? Just complain, and maybe they'll make everything easier for you. Pro Tip: they already did.

You apparently don't understand the difference between plot, difficulty, and annoyance.

[cidbahamut]

Re: New Battlefields! 08/24/2011

It's Dak...