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  • #61
    Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

    Depending on the recast timer, Bully could be a very nice move. Intimidate basically takes an attack round away from the mob right?
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    • #62
      Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

      Bully only affects the thf, so for it to have combat use the thf needs to have hate. That seems to leave it two uses: extra safety when accomplicing, and mini-PD when pulling.
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      • #63
        Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

        Okay then, not as useful as originally thought.
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        • #64
          Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

          Originally posted by Squiggs View Post
          Okay then, not as useful as originally thought.
          Still might be alright, have had quite a few THF tanks when fighting NM's in Abyssea.
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          • #65
            Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

            I tank all the time on THF in abyssea. I will make full use of Bully.
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            • #66
              Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

              I will make full use of it... yet, I still wish THF had gotten something else. THF tanking is fine for most NMs... some one-shot you though.
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              • #67
                Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

                Originally posted by Neverslip View Post
                I still wish THF had gotten something else
                I'm not a THF, so I have very little idea how to play it effectively. What kind of thing are you looking for?
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                • #68
                  Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

                  (*whisper*I think squiggs knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy in SE*whisper*)

                  ---------- Post added at 04:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:32 PM ----------

                  Originally posted by Squiggs View Post
                  What kind of thing are you looking for?
                  Either that or they're a hooker.


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                  • #69
                    Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

                    Originally posted by Yygdrasil View Post
                    I think squiggs knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy in SE
                    HA!!! I wish. I'd tell them to bow to the whim and make just one job in game. RDM...

                    Originally posted by Yygdrasil View Post
                    Either that or they're a hooker.
                    I can neither confirm nor deny your suspicions...
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                    • #70
                      Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

                      Originally posted by Gobo View Post


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                      • #71
                        Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

                        Originally posted by Squiggs View Post
                        Depending on the recast timer, Bully could be a very nice move.
                        Very true. The recast timer is one of the pins that the usefullness of the move hinges upon. Another is the proc rate of the Intimidation. Intimidation just doesn't fit with my perception of a Thief. I'd think WAR would get something like that but THF just doesn't really fit for me. Essentially stealing a mob's turn kinda fits... but perceptually(word?) I just don't see it.

                        A giant monster all pissed off looks down at a party of adventurers and sees a giant warrior holding a double-bladed axe and is completely unphased. A wizard calling forth the elements themselves still unphased. Another wizard who's got the spirits of demons standing near him still nothing... some dude w/ rippling muscle whose willing to fight with nothing but his bare hands... no worries. Then his gaze is cast upon some lil dude with a couple of knives and he feels the warmth run down his leg and pool at his feet?

                        Idk... it just doesn't work for me. Yes, I'm aware I'm trying to use RL logic in fantasy world. But this is like everyone being intimidated by the guy on the left instead of the guy on the right

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                        Originally posted by Squiggs View Post
                        What kind of thing are you looking for?
                        I'd love to bring more to the table than just being a TH-whore. I've personally seen better drops happen with TH 8 than TH 11+. TH isn't really even that useful when you are proc'n yellows and blues pretty well. Yet, if we got another tier of TH, I wouldn't complain cuz it fits the job as many of us know it. Maybe a TH IV where you actually get a sub-menu/mini-game to handpick what drops, maybe? JK on that last one.... sorta.

                        As a tank THF is pretty damn good. I totally agree. But THF will always stand on the sidelines if you have a MNK, PLD, NIN, or DNC. I wouldn't want to necessarily get something that makes THF a better tank anyway cuz I don't think that is the job's role. And other jobs fit that niche. Sure, a THF can tank but it's not what the job was designed to do. I'd like something that plays even more with enmity distribution I think. Or even another skill akin to SA/TA that toys with enmity distribution.

                        Tbh though, I really don't know. I wish I did. I might get a job in vidgames if I had awesome ideas for this stuff. I just don't see Intimidation as something that is innately THF'ish. And as such:

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                        • #72
                          Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

                          Someone used to play D&D


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                          • #73
                            Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

                            I've played AD&D... but I didn't enjoy it. I played better games thought up by my friends for the fantasy genre. Shadowrun and Call of Cthulu were also fun. AD&D is pretty meh, imHo. Still the archetypes are true.

                            ... and, yes, I am aware Conan is a thief, lol.
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                            • #74
                              Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

                              Originally posted by Neverslip View Post
                              ... and, yes, I am aware Conan is a thief, lol.
                              You better...


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                              • #75
                                Re: Job Adjustments! (8/19/2011)

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