Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

[Truece]

I summon ye math people!

I recently got the Atma of the Sea Daughter.

The SD atma has the following stats:
Regain: 5/tic
Regen: 30/tic (daytime only)
Slow: 13%

My question is: Does the regain effect make up for the slow, or am I losing out on DoT (assuming WS @ 100%)?

My gut tells me that the regain and additional WS will make up for the slow... Can anyone confirm?

[cidbahamut]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

My eyeballing says the Slow far outweighs the benefits of regain but that it will ultimately depend on exact numbers of haste.

[Raydeus]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

Slow doesn't matter if you aren't meleeing, so SD is better used for when you are just going in to use a WS and then out.

It's a very good atma.

[Truece]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

Slow doesn't matter if you aren't meleeing, so SD is better used for when you are just going in to use a WS and then out.

It's a very good atma.

I have made good use of it in that sense. Great for red procs. It was also nice for 'leeching' on DNC when I was too low of a level to hit the abyssea mobs; I could still heal the crap outta the alliance (at least until we had 10 mobs attacking 10 different people)!

[Raydeus]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

Probably the more Regain you can stack the more worth it it would be for regular meleeing. Because 5 Regain alone would probably not make that much difference even considering how overpowered WS are compared to regular hits. But since it's Aby chances are it's very much worth it. XD



<------ Soooo not a math guy while playing the game.

[Neverslip]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

I know many mages in my LS use Sea Daughter at certain times... course... I can't recall when, sorry.

[Truece]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

I'm using Razed Ruin and Voracious Violet as my other two atmas... The only other decent melee atma that I have (aside from SD) is Stout Arm. So basically, which would be best for my DoT:

Razed Ruin + Voracious Violet + Sea Daughter
or
Razed Ruin + Voracious Violet + Stout Arm?

[Malacite]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

Sea Daughter is a very situational atma.

Typically it's for use when you're on a job like WAR at an event so you can get TP very quickly without having to feed the mob TP or get hit by AoE.

The only jobs that ever really use this full-time (or near full-time) are RNG & COR since haste & slow have no bearing on ranged attacks.

[Raydeus]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

Razed Ruin + Voracious Violet + Sea Daughter
or
Razed Ruin + Voracious Violet + Stout Arm?

Stout arm would probably make your damage more consistent, but it also depends on what mods your WS is using. If it uses STR then probably Stout would be better, if it doesn't then Sea Daughter is a good option, specially on Regen time due to AoE.

So I say give both setups a try and see which you are most comfortable with.

[Romyro]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

i used to use it on smn a little. Was nice having more TP for physcial BPs. Regular avatar attacks didn’t do much so I didn’t mind the slow.

If the regen was constant (instead of just day), I would probably use it over Mounted Champ on Bst.

[Malacite]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

I'm using Razed Ruin and Voracious Violet as my other two atmas... The only other decent melee atma that I have (aside from SD) is Stout Arm. So basically, which would be best for my DoT:

Razed Ruin + Voracious Violet + Sea Daughter
or
Razed Ruin + Voracious Violet + Stout Arm?

This isn't on WHM I hope?

Use GH for your 3rd.

[Raydeus]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

Unless he (like me) doesn't have it. <_<;

[Malacite]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

Then go get GH

It's not like there isn't a bajillion people camping Sobek 24/7, just ask someone for the Atma lol.

[Raydeus]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

Yeah, that's what they said about Rani win.

[Romyro]

Re: Atmas: Slow vs. Regain

when did anyone ever say that about rani?
It's true though...sobek is up more than not. even with the 2 addtional ???s