The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

[Elwynn]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

I'm sure I'm in a large minority but I hate this,

It's something I always enjoyed a lot about FFXI when I used to play. It's one of the reasons I don't play so many MMOs these days. Just when I'm re-starting.. haha.

My beef with it is that at least the old way was a direct formula from the TNL. Looking at that graph, I'm not sure what formula they're using now.

At high level these days, the 1200 or 2400 (or even 3600 if you're really unlucky) isn't all that much. Half an hour in campaign, or a few minutes of Dominion Ops.


The new font basically sucks. It's readable a bit farther in the distance than before but it's t o o w i d e, geez. And it's not just used over people's heads either. Don't let people with no concept of graphic layout design fonts. In particular, if they don't know what "tracking" means.

So apparently the new mobs added to lower level areas are super fun! (And by super fun I mean aggressive to 90s and in the way of shit that lowbies need.)

Brilliant. Because (with the sole exception of Seaboard Vultures) the previous ones are soooooo popular. At least the previous ones were actually out of the way. But Zeruhn Mines? GMAFB. There hasn't been this much fail with new mobs in old areas since the hunt registry/synergy crap NMs like Tegmine.


EDIT: it says that Treat Staff II was changed to 1 hour. That is wrong. But 20 hours is still a lot better than the 5 days it used to be.

[Malacite]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


Racked up 9 Carabosse's Gems tonight after months of barely any progress. Can confirm she drops a Coin & Card of Voyage now.

[cidbahamut]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

I'm curious to see just how badly they've fucked things up with new mob placement.

[Mhurron]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

So apparently the new mobs added to lower level areas are super fun! (And by super fun I mean aggressive to 90s and in the way of shit that lowbies need.)

HAHAHAHAHA you know what - fuck new players. If they wanted to play a SE MMO, they should have signed up for XIV.

No seriously, because as Elwynn said, they will never get killed.

[Romyro]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

Racked up 9 Carabosse's Gems tonight after months of barely any progress. Can confirm she drops a Coin & Card of Voyage now.

Solo'd her on Bst a while back, and now she can drop bst feet+2 items /joy!

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Didn’t you always need some form of sneak/invs in these areas though? And generally if you solo running through and got agro, there was a good chance you’d die anyways? I may run to some areas tonight and just poke around to see what the hype is but I’m not seeing a major problem.

Infact this may help new players. There are plenty of people that somehow still don’t know how to avoid being detected.

[Murphie]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

Except most of these areas are places where you never needed to avoid aggro in the first place or didn't need it after a point.

Example: By rights, I should be able to walk right through Rangemount Pass on my 48 BLU without having to use meds. However, the level 90 Ahrimans and Goblins standing in my way since last night disagree! Well, I guess I didn't really need to save meds.

Some areas have better placement than others, I'll admit, but I mean, seriously.

[Armando]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

Infact this may help new players. There are plenty of people that somehow still don’t know how to avoid being detected.

Anyone that can't be bothered to experiment or look up how detection works isn't going to learn this way - they're just going to get killed. You could already practice walking behind Beastmen in the comfort of Ronfaure/Sarutabaruta/Gustaberg.

And if you're a real hard-ass looking for a challenge there's better places to look - like making the trip from Sea Serpent Grotto to Kazham on foot.

[Malacite]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

Yeah they completely fucked up Garlaige & Crawler's Nest...


Also, lots of QQ over Dynamis going on. Just finished reading over at BG, they've even turned Dynamis into Abyssea. Mobs are MUCH stronger than they were before, you can proc !! now and currency drop rates are just pure shit now. 2 coins in 45 minutes? WTF!?

[Aksannyi]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

After the 50k key item though, it's essentially free to enter every single day and once people know how to get all of the time extensions, they can and will stay in Dynamis as long as possible every day. SE lowered the drop rate probably because they knew that's how people would do it, and in the end, the currency coming into circulation would be about the same.

Changing it to be more like Abyssea though ... dude, SE, the whole game does not need to be Abyssea or Abyssea-like.

[cidbahamut]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

After the 50k key item though, it's essentially free to enter every single day and once people know how to get all of the time extensions, they can and will stay in Dynamis as long as possible every day. SE lowered the drop rate probably because they knew that's how people would do it, and in the end, the currency coming into circulation would be about the same.

Actually I'm pretty sure the release notes said there would be a finite number of time extensions you could acquire, so unless that's changed since I read the announcement a few months back it's still gonna be a fight against the clock.

Changing it to be more like Abyssea though ... dude, SE, the whole game does not need to be Abyssea or Abyssea-like.

This. So fucking hard.

I take solace in the fact that CoP Dynamis zones remain unchanged. Call me crazy but I liked the way Dynamis was set up as an event. The drop rates and the incompetent people not so much, but the event design was fun for me.

[Taskmage]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

Changing it to be more like Abyssea though ... dude, SE, the whole game does not need to be Abyssea or Abyssea-like.

It is part of the abyssea story that if you stay in another dimension too long, you won't be able to go home. Turning the rest of Vana'diel into abyssea sounds like ironic punishment.

[Aksannyi]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

Actually I'm pretty sure the release notes said there would be a finite number of time extensions you could acquire, so unless that's changed since I read the announcement a few months back it's still gonna be a fight against the clock.

Well yeah but I meant like, if Dynamis was 3 hours before and it's still 3 hours ... and you can go every single day for three hours now instead of every three days for three hours, you have more opportunity to get currency. SE recognized that and lowered the drop rate, also taking into account that multiple groups can enter at the same time which is as close as it will ever get to instanced content ... so they are taking that all in and realizing that if they left the currency drop rates the same, there would be relics, relics, everywhere!

[Mhurron]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

A big thanks to SE actually. This is going to make it even easier to wrap a few things up that I want to do, quit and never look back.

[Grizzlebeard]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

So did they update the stats on relic armour or make entirely new sets with this revision?

[Romyro]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (05/10/2011)

Wait till procs and stuff are figured out and currency will be easier to obtain then curor.