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  • #16
    Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

    Originally posted by Aksannyi View Post
    Then again, the bonuses (if there are any) from having these skills leveled might then need to be looked at, but I can't remember when having your guarding skill at cap really made that much of a noticeable difference, and it's certainly not a requirement that I've ever seen. (Perhaps useful in Salvage, but I've never really seen anyone struggle without it.)

    Guard reduces damage taken by quite a lot, also can nullify TP moves entirely. Since monk has turned into a tank in a lot of abyssea situations, it's actually quite useful and will proc often the higher your skill level is.

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    • #17
      Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

      I didn't know that. Thanks. The only thing I knew about guard was that it was a bitch to level. XD
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      • #18
        Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

        I always did pretty well on guard, of course, fewer skills are slower to get the summoning magic...

        This is welcomed. Now if they just let us get skill ups in campaign too.
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        • #19
          Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

          Originally posted by lunamadison View Post
          This is welcomed. Now if they just let us get skill ups in campaign too.
          That still won't be nearly enough. Campaign is, for all intents & purposes dead unless SE jacks up the rewards extremely.
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          • #20
            Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

            I've capped my Summoning Magic Skill. I know the slow and drawn out progression. I've sat in an abyssea party for 8+ hours, spamming Pred. Claws every 45 seconds and walked out with +2.3 skill points in the category.

            I have lots of sympathy for PUP and their terrible fate of skilling not only themselves, but their pups as well. I feel for you...

            As for myself currently... I'm working on Ninjitsu, katana, g katana, parry, evasion and staff at the moment. Now that I have some fairly decent gear and I'm starting to get my skills up a bit farther, I've been dedicating a few hours a week to sitting in Wajoam Woodlands letting Colibri wack at me for a while to boost my eva/parry skills. It gets boring, but it gets the job done. I can't rely on skilling those 2 in abyssea since hardly ever have hate... and AoEs are few and far between. Katana is going up slowly but steadily... and staff is a nightmare and ninjitsu is just expensive and timely.

            Ninjitsu... I've just bought 4 stacks of Raiton tools and have been slowly making my way through all the mobs that I cap my gain on and letting the timer do all the work. I macro'd in a loop of commands to keep the raiton coming. My eva and parry are high enough that i can sit there and idle while I work on the skill. It's slow... but it'll get there. Once I can land on abyssea mobs, I'll move the skill-ups to them, but until then, I dont expect to do much besides grind from Quifim -> Jungle -> Citadel -> Woodlands -> Terrigan and eventually finish.

            What I need is a magian 2-3 hit staff and an old fassioned skill up party at the tree. For katana... it's just a matter of time... but the Double Attk/Tripple Attk and haste I get in abyssea helps those skills come faster and faster.

            I think it's a welcome (and totally long verdue) change that will help me out in every one of these skills. I can't wait. What day is it set for? Or is it confirmed yet?


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            • #21
              Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

              Originally posted by Yygdrasil View Post
              staff is a nightmare
              If you have sea, see if you can't find a linkshell killing Jailers ... I can't remember which drops it, but the double attack staff is a good way to skill up staff, as long as you can keep a good supply of virtue stones. (Which are easy to farm.) Most linkshells let them drop to the floor.

              It's Hope. Jailer of Hope, Hope Staff. (Pardon that, it popped into my head, and I wrote it exactly as I thought it. Lol)

              Anyway, yeah, see if you can find a linkshell to let you grab it or even pay 100k for it or something, the double attack procs pretty often as long as you have the virtue stones equipped and it will skill you up much faster. I had plans to do that on my SMN since WHM and BLM can't equip that staff (they get the Prudence Rod) but I never got around to it.

              Now with the extra skill points, however they're adjusting the rate, having the extra double attack would be even more awesome. Since staff was an absolute bitch to level. On the rare occasion I bothered to try.
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              • #22
                Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

                Originally posted by Aksannyi View Post
                If you have sea, see if you can't find a linkshell killing Jailers ... I can't remember which drops it, but the double attack staff is a good way to skill up staff, as long as you can keep a good supply of virtue stones. (Which are easy to farm.) Most linkshells let them drop to the floor.

                It's Hope. Jailer of Hope, Hope Staff. (Pardon that, it popped into my head, and I wrote it exactly as I thought it. Lol)

                Anyway, yeah, see if you can find a linkshell to let you grab it or even pay 100k for it or something, the double attack procs pretty often as long as you have the virtue stones equipped and it will skill you up much faster. I had plans to do that on my SMN since WHM and BLM can't equip that staff (they get the Prudence Rod) but I never got around to it.

                Now with the extra skill points, however they're adjusting the rate, having the extra double attack would be even more awesome. Since staff was an absolute bitch to level. On the rare occasion I bothered to try.
                I think I looked into it once before. Sadly, on Valefor... there are hardly any LS' going into either Sky or Sea at all anymore. Bazaars are no longer filled with seals for sky or organs from sea... people actually have to shout for hours in Jeuno to find someone willing to sell a genbu seal... it's ridiculous. I remember when everyone and their pregnant grandfather had one of those puppies in their Bazaar. I think I'd rather not bother paying someone 100k to get a staff I can make with the Magian Trials for nothing more than a time investment. The magian one comes out with 2-3 extra if you choose the right path. From what i remember there are no VNMs involved either... it's just kill grinding.

                I do appreciate the suggestion tho... but it just seems unlikely for me to find some LS going to Jailer of Hope... let alone one that will let me pay them for the staff drop. That being said, I'll still ask anyone who shouts that they're going to kill him... It would be an awsome addition to my museum of collectables.

                I should redecorate my MH. I like white... yeah white. How much are screens and tables now...? *checks*

                It's happening.... time to renovate.

                *movin on up... mooooovin on up. To the east side...*


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                • #23
                  Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

                  Ahh, I didn't know that stuff had died off so much, though I suppose it's not all that surprising. And the fact that there's a better alternative out there. Double attack is sweet as hell for skilling up though.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

                    Originally posted by Aksannyi View Post
                    Ahh, I didn't know that stuff had died off so much, though I suppose it's not all that surprising. And the fact that there's a better alternative out there. Double attack is sweet as hell for skilling up though.
                    if only staves werent 2 handed *dreams*


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                    • #25
                      Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

                      Originally posted by Yygdrasil View Post
                      if only staves werent 2 handed *dreams*
                      One handed staves are clubs.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

                        I always use two hands when I'm playing with a sta--

                        nvm.
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                        • #27
                          Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

                          Originally posted by Aksannyi View Post
                          I always use two hands when I'm playing with a sta--

                          nvm.
                          LoL. I get it... you're talking about a peni.. *hrmph*

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                          • #28
                            Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

                            Looks like we need one of these:

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                            • #29
                              Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

                              Originally posted by Aksannyi View Post
                              Looks like we need one of these:



                              But seriously.... I actually felt really stupid when I saw this post. I figured that the blackness was something being blocked by websense. It was only after I fiddled with my phone to pull up the page and find the post that I realized I was seeing it correctly all along.

                              Well played... Well played....


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                              • #30
                                Re: Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)

                                Haha, it wasn't my intention to mess with your head, but that works.

                                Anyway. So about these skill ups, right? (lol we always derail everything. Sorry guys)
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