New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

[Mhurron]

The new FINAL FANTASY XI version update is currently on track for an early December release!

The development team is putting the finishing touches on a wide range of content headlined by the long-awaited conclusion of the Wings of the Goddess missions, the next stage of the level cap increase accompanied by a variety of new spells and job abilities, and the new set of job emotes announced at VanaFest 2010.

Adventurers can also look forward to new item storage features, additions and enhancements to Trial of the Magians, new synergy and synthesis recipes and much, much more.

Further details will be announced in the coming weeks, so keep watching this space!

[Yellow Mage]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

Puppetmaster's job-specific emote is blushing.

. . .

[cidbahamut]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

additions and enhancements to Trial of the Magians,

/RAGE

[Raydeus]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

Next stop:

Shamshir +2 (x2): DMG 56, Delay 230, STR +10, Att +20
Shamshir +2 (x2): DMG 56, Delay 230, DEX +10, Acc +16

And 400 mobs (x4) under weather/day effect.

Also: DWIII
/drool

[Yellow Mage]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

Also: DWIII

On that note, I guess we'll finally see whether S-E is dumb enough to let Haste Samba be subbed . . .

/RAGE

Oh, get over yourself.

[Raydeus]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

It's only 5% Haste, I don't see why they would block it.

Although now I'm curious (since I never party with DNC) if I'd get Samba effect while using enspell as /DNC, knowing SE I seriously doubt it.

Edit > nvm I just read the wiki, no Haste samba for me!

/em hugs DWIII.

[Malacite]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

Maybe this time SE will make Relics/Mythics worth pursuing again?


Come on new Celestial Avatar pacts! AND COME ON 3RD LUNAR ABYSSITE! Daddy wants his 3rd Atma effect XD

[Yellow Mage]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

Maybe this time SE will make Relics/Mythics worth pursuing again?

The only way to make Relics any more worth it is to lower the number of kills required for the upgrade Trials. Barring where multi-hit weapons are applicable (which really, they always were kinda dumb), the Relics, AFAIK, are still the best weapons of their kind (and even then, they still beat the multi-hit weapons in raw DPS).

Come on new Celestial Avatar pacts!

Never mind the fact that all eight elements of the celestial sphere have been added already, nor the "fact" that moar avatarz always solve everything. No. All we care about is that you make more, dangit!

AND COME ON 3RD LUNAR ABYSSITE! Daddy wants his 3rd Atma effect XD

Why don't I have you on my Ignore List yet?

[cidbahamut]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

Oh, get over yourself.

I'm not allowed to complain about the perpetuation of what I see as a very bad design choice?

This person sums it up rather well:Trial of the Magians

[Yellow Mage]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

I'm not allowed to complain about the perpetuation of what I see as a very bad design choice?

By all means you are allowed. I'm just saying that it would seem rather greedy to deride a system where the effort put in actually matches the reward coming out, for what more could you possibly want? Or would you seriously rather compete with the rest of the server again for a chance at your good equipment?

I, for one, welcome our new Moogle overlords.

[cidbahamut]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

I would prefer a system that wasn't designed in such a lazy manner. Put some actual questing into the process, make it something of importance with a story to it rather than just a chore handed out by an NPC.

Is it nice to have a do-it-yourself option available? Maybe.
I feel in many ways it undermines the core principles on which the game was founded: playing with other people. So while I can see the appeal of Trials for some folks, I don't think it should be as large a component of the game as it has become. Certainly there's non-Magian gear post 75, but the balance between the Trial gear and non-Trial gear is staggering.

Maybe I actually want to compete for my gear. Maybe I prefer the uncertainty of it all as it makes the eventual victory that much sweeter. Perhaps I find endlessly punching thousands of bunnies under absurdly specific conditions a gigantic pain in the ass. Maybe if I wanted that kind of game design I would have picked a game that was built around it rather than this one that has up until recently taken a distinctly different approach.

Oh, and let's not forget that the crafting of weapons is now completely and totally dead. A nice big 'fuck you' to crafters.

[TheGrandMom]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

I, for one, welcome our new Moogle overlords.

Mwah ha ha!.....MWAH HA HA!!

I knew this day would come!!

[Yellow Mage]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

I feel in many ways it undermines the core principles on which the game was founded: playing with other people.

What kind of backwards Trials are you playing? Something I distinctly remember the Trials being praised for when they first came out was that they promoted cooperation with your fellow players: instead of fighting over the same NMs over and again, people formed parties so that they could all receive credit for the kill. I even remember hearing of cross-time zone parties, where some participants camped the NMs while others AFK'd to do stuff like sleep.

Compare this to your typical Ground King back in the day, which I'm sure that the consensus is that it wasn't playing with other people so much as playing against them. People paid otherwise good money for claim bots, for goodness sake. And you're seriously telling me that is the system that you prefer?

Maybe I actually want to compete for my gear. Maybe I prefer the uncertainty of it all as it makes the eventual victory that much sweeter.

I suppose that's a yes . . .

Maybe I actually want to be contrarian.

Oh, and let's not forget that the crafting of weapons is now completely and totally dead. A nice big 'fuck you' to crafters.

Please. Like anybody ever actually used Wing Swords for anything other than their eventual Excaliburs, anyway.

Oh, and as for the real point of contention for this update . . .

FENCER.

Quit delaying us and make it happen, S-E!

[cidbahamut]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

What kind of backwards Trials are you playing? Something I distinctly remember the Trials being praised for when they first came out was that they promoted cooperation with your fellow players: instead of fighting over the same NMs over and again, people formed parties so that they could all receive credit for the kill. I even remember hearing of cross-time zone parties, where some participants camped the NMs while others AFK'd to do stuff like sleep.

Maybe on your server, but whenever I see folks working on Magian stuff it's always some guy on his own camping a NM or endlessly punching out a specific mob family. Even if there is some there are folks cooperating and generally being awesome, most of these things are end game gear, and I generally expect the cream of the crop equipment to come from some sort of event, not from a mindlessly grind that's basically the exp grind except we can't tell because the moogle is busy smacking us in the face with his little pompom.

But I guess that's just me.

Please. Like anybody ever actually used Wing Swords for anything other than their eventual Excaliburs, anyway.

Way to pick out one specific example in order to trivialize the shafting of an entire section of the playerbase's financial wellbeing. I guess HQ staves are something no one in the game ever bothers with, right? Or Thalassocrats, or that other polearm that I can't spell. Yeah, there totally wasn't a portion of the playerbase supplying crafted weapons for folks at level 75 at all. Were those weapons always the best? No, but they were an important part of the item pool. Post 75 it seems there's no options other than Magian Trials. That's my beef with them. They aren't a new option, they're the only option nowadays.

Then again maybe it'll all even out somehow by the time we get to 99.

[Malacite]

Re: New Version Update Draws Near! (11/09/2010)

Never mind the fact that all eight elements of the celestial sphere have been added already, nor the "fact" that moar avatarz always solve everything. No. All we care about is that you make more, dangit!

I meant bloodpacts. The 70 pacts are outdated, and we could really use a new set of physical ones, preferably with the ability to close Light & Darkness. SMN still retains somewhat of an edge in terms of hate-free damage, but it's getting to the point where even your average schmuck in AH gear can put up ridiculous numbers in Abyssea as long as they have the right Atmas.

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Why don't I have you on my Ignore List yet?

You suck? And there's no reason not to assume there will be a 3rd Lunar Abyssite. We got a 2nd one with Scars, so it's not like SE hasn't set any precedent. We're likely to see the continuation of all the established Abyssite sets too.

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The only way to make Relics any more worth it is to lower the number of kills required for the upgrade Trials. Barring where multi-hit weapons are applicable (which really, they always were kinda dumb), the Relics, AFAIK, are still the best weapons of their kind (and even then, they still beat the multi-hit weapons in raw DPS).

You really are out of touch man. I know not everyone here goes to BG but it wouldn't hurt once in a while to keep up with the times. Empyreans utterly destroy relics, no contest. Right now it's looking like WAR & MNK are the best, with people dropping 6k+ Ukko's Furies in Abyssea, on top of the 30% ODD aftermath. Some of the mythics are still handy like Yagrush, but by in large if you have the choice take the Empyrean. They're way easier to get too.

If all goes well with this LS I'm trying to join (I say trying because the hours conflict with my family dinners which is annoying but otherwise I'm in) I should have my Masamune within a month.