Abyssea Experiences

[Neverslip]

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Both are from Ephemeral Clionid and Ephemerald Limule in Tahrongi

Those would be really nice... however I don't think I could solo either of those mobs with either of my 80's. QQ

[Ketaru]

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Those would be really nice... however I don't think I could solo either of those mobs with either of my 80's. QQ

With the ability to Stun, wouldn't DNC be able to? That wasn't really the battle for me. The battle was finding the mobs. I initially went RDM because I figure I would need to Silence the mobs. But I gave up after 2 circles around the canyon and not finding any.

Hell, even when I went BST so I would have widescan, I still found 2 Bhumis and Ephemeral Limules (one of which dropped the Destiny abyssite) before I found the Clionid, hidden way to the far west among the floating skulls.

[Laynton]

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So 80 rdm with half decent solo gear be able to solo those? Whats best sub for it in you opinion?

[Romyro]

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Ephemeral Clionid and Ephemerald

When abyssea first opened up, me and another bst would go in and just Wide scan for these guys. 2 76+ Bsts can easily handle…actually Bst can solo, just need to rest after each. We were getting 300-750xp+ per kill. But they are spread out. Probably got about 7+ kills as we circled the map, then we’d start at the beginning and go another round depending on time. Don’t think in our 4 runs we got the abyssites though 

[Neverslip]

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With the ability to Stun, wouldn't DNC be able to?

Come to think of it... I might on DNC. I went up there on a exploration run... and attempted solo'n the little "cute" flyers that were DC with my SAM (proly 77'ish at the time) and was zapped to death in no time flat. I've mostly been playing my SAM of late so I didn't really think of using that flourish. Maybe an attempt is in order... they weren't really hitting hard so I'm thinking I could proly go /RNG ... oh god... my /Rng will be gimped... I really am not looking forward to that lvl'n that sub.

[Yellow Mage]

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Also, I have been informed (by a friend who used to play FFXI) that it's pronounced "bas-tuke" (rhymes with "nuke"), not "bas-tawk". :p

Yeah, I knew that already. Opening Sequence {You can have this.}

[Elwynn]

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i did it again with the same gear and time my kills and totaled them up to see how much time i wasted kill these stupid crabs. i dont remember exact numbers but it was something like 15min or so out of an hour (+6min cuz of key item). Thats probably at least 3-4 more rusty items i could have fished up.

I just gave up and did the quest with the broken willow fishing rod.

And I just realized after repairing two dozen of them that it's cheaper to buy a new one and throw the old one away than to waste a Light Crystal on them. ; ;

EDIT: nvm, the merchant in Bstok wants 500 gil per rod. So it really is cheaper to burn the light crystals.

[Vyuru]

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If I remember correctly, when fishing any message ending with !!! is a monster. So you want to cancel fishing if you get that, you only want one !.

Need someone with regular fishing experience though to confirm that, I only dabble in fishing.

[Elwynn]

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If I remember correctly, when fishing any message ending with !!! is a monster. So you want to cancel fishing if you get that, you only want one !.

Need someone with regular fishing experience though to confirm that, I only dabble in fishing.

Ah, so I'm just a fishing noob, then. Yeah, I just looked that up on wiki, you're right. I still have my bait and I'm already up to 3 fame from willow rods.

EDIT: wow I got like six !!! in a row (not counting no-results) before I got a !, but that does seem to work.

EDIT2: I was doing okay until a big group came in casting spells all over the place (no WHM = Protect/Shell IV cast on everybody one at a time). Seems they were there to fish up an NM. Yeah, well all that spell spam scrolled the "Something caught the hook!!!" off the chat log (non-scrollable in fishing mode) and I barely escaped with my life after fishing up a crab.

EDIT3: that taru fishing next to me is getting them a lot faster than I am... probably has the moghancement... ugh, more crap to do so I can do more crap

EDIT4: dammit I needed a rusty bucket months ago... the slow hook rate was why I never bothered with fishing. I'm fishing up rusty stuff much faster now.

[Truece]

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I finally got one of those Abyssea PTs. Started w/ a fail PT @ 11:30 AM... lasted just 1.5 hrs or so... Then, got another invite... Started ~2PM... and I left @ 12:30 AM.

While I was there, I took MNK from 76 (10k tnl), dinged 80 and capped xp... Capped merits (4.3 merits), job changed, used all my merits, went back out and capped xp on BRD (I was just 100 into level 80), then proceeded to cap merits again.

Unless my math is wrong, I got 394,000+ exp in ~12 hours or so (which averages out to almost 33k/hr after you take out short breaks). I also gained almost 90k cruor while I was there...

I left with more time than I entered with, and still have 3 stones on me, with more available from Joachim. I'm glad to finally have gotten into a good PT ^^

(Much thanks to the wife, who allowed me to play all day and ignore my fatherly duties)

[Laynton]

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(Much thanks to the wife, who allowed me to play all day and ignore my fatherly duties)

need to find me one of those

[NightShayde]

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A bunch of people in my LS have been going into Abyssea twice a week. Before Sunday, we hadn't gotten the time chests or anything else super-nifty. We've been going in with 10-11 people & I just figured that the awesome exp wouldn't happen with such a small group.

I was happily proved wrong on Sunday. With 11 of us, we spent about 3 - 3 1/2 hours in there & must have gotten about 77K exp. We stopped not because we ran out of time (didn't seem like that was going to be an issue), but because it was getting late at night & people had to go to bed so they could get up for work on Monday. When we stopped, we were getting 575 exp per monster -- it was so hard to tear ourselves away!

I went from a few thousand exp into 79 all the way to 36k exp into level 80. Now I can use Convert as WHM, which is really quite exciting. Either that, or I can sub BLM & D2 people at the end of the party. Sweet!

[Truece]

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I went from a few thousand exp into 79 all the way to 36k exp into level 80. Now I can use Convert as WHM, which is really quite exciting. Either that, or I can sub BLM & D2 people at the end of the party. Sweet!

You mean sub SCH and take advantage of 10% cheaper/faster cures/-nas, accension, sublimation, aspir, etc. don't you?

[ItazuraNhomango]

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Abyssea exp is fun and addictive, but it's not the ultra fast exp in normal groups as it has been advertised:

Shadow Lizard - 4 hr 41 min: 27.2k exp/hr average
Shadow Lizard - 2 hr 51 min: 21.5k exp/hr average
Jaguarundi - 3 hr 29 min: 40.9k exp/hr average (JP alliance; I left once to use up merit points then returned)
Pachypodium - 3 hr 35 min: 21.1k exp/hr average
Shadow Lizard - 3 hr 42 min: 35.0k exp/hr average
Shadow Lizard - 1 hr 37 min: 15.9k exp/hr average (failed to achieve sustainability)
Shadow Lizard - 2 hr 16 min: 17.0 exp/hr average (slowly collapsed)
Shadow Lizard - 3 hr 49 min: 52.7k exp/hr average

Extraordinary alliances are uncommon. Well, that's why they are extraordinary, I guess. Looking at the parses, it's obviously that once the alliances become sustainable, strong DDs with BRD/COR and Haste support are what makes the exp good. Oh, and a good main /assist and a good puller together is an invaluable combination.

Iffy party/alliance setup staffed with meh-ish DD players can work, but you would be missing out on heck of a lot of exp. You want the BRDs, you want the CORs, and you want the non-lazy healers who would cast Haste.

Most of all, you want to get RID of the DDs with under 70% accuracy and AFK half of time. (Yes, elitism is back, and you want in on it. Sorry, but trust me on this.)

[Vyuru]

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Disagree with you slightly IfritnoItazura. It's more mobs vs lights and how they are built. Brds and Cors have largely so far been an oddity for me to see, starting to see them a bit more now, but still not terribly common. There might be one Brd and one Cor on average per alliance, nowhere near enough to make a difference IMO. Even then they are commonly the chest openers, and rolls/songs are not being kept up.

If I've had an Abyssea alliance that made under 30k/hr it was typically on mobs where you could not build ruby light for instance. Against mobs you can build pearl/azure/ruby the exp skyrockets, depending on time extension chests, simply for the fact that once you have pearl/azure/ruby and suitable time extensions, you can focus on getting gold/ebon/silver light chests and getting the exp up to 600 exp/kill.

Or to put another way...

In Abyssea Tahrongi Canyon, I'll hit the 10 merit mark while getting somewhere between 300-400 exp per kill vs bats or mandies. In Abyssea La Thiene I will hit the 10 merit mark much sooner getting 600 exp per kill vs birds.

It's kind of like having one big party, there are so many variables to it you can't just say that it is all about support or all about elite DDs or something else. You need enough tanks to hold the mobs while the DDs work on each one, you need suitable pullers who may or may not be Plds tanking as well, you need the healing and ability for magic kills.

Otherwise yeah, get rid of the gimps, keep up hastes and all that good stuff.