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  • #16
    Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

    Nobody from SE has yet said anything about Abyssea being extra-cost content. Or at least not that I have heard/seen anywhere.

    In fact, I only just realized that each part has a name, which slightly hints at them being "expansions".
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    • #17
      Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

      It's probably showing up late in June, so they'll probably start dropping teasers next week; though it wouldn't surprise me if they wait until the Mob Bonanza marbles go on sale on the 16th.
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      • #18
        Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

        Originally posted by Elwynn View Post
        Nobody from SE has yet said anything about Abyssea being extra-cost content.
        You're correct although I believe, based on previous experience, you'll be paying for them. Otherwise why announce them as addons as opposed to content update releases. This is one of the reasons I'd like to know more about them. The last lot of addons provided precious little in the way of content and if these are going to be the same price are we, me included, being overly optimistic in our expectation of significant content? Namely new levelling areas, new job abilities, spells, gear, weaponskills, missions, quests, and stuff that hasn't even occurred to me yet.

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        • #19
          Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

          There's supposedly going to be AF3, and it's apparently supposed to be possible to get a full set of it even if you buy only one of the Abyssea add-ons, without the need to buy the other two as well.

          I occasionally see people somehow associating the level-cap increase with Abyssea. While I'm sure Abyssea will surely, in its own way, cater to the new level ranges, I'm also certain that the level cap increase itself will be completely independent of Abyssea.

          Meanwhile, I'm just sitting here all smug with the fact that these new "endgame-oriented" add-ons aren't exactly anything I personally need to be in any sort of hurry to buy. Maybe if I hurry with my leveling, I'll get my Red Mage to 75+ by the time the inevitable Ultimate Collection 2 would go on sale at a discounted price.
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          • #20
            Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

            Mm, I would point out that the Genkai quests don't require Rise of the Zilart either. It would actually be rather astonishing to require a late-game mini-expansion for cap increase quests given that there is no single greater basic capability distinction than level.

            Some might not see the unprecedented nature given the playerbase has its own expectations (i.e. prior to level sync you must have RotZ to get past 25 because Elshimo is where that's done, same with 55ish and ToAU once meleeburn became the one true xp party type) but SE has never obviously tied levels to expansions in an exclusive way. True, the cap hasn't been raised in a long time, but I think the best analogue to more recent content is job adjustments. You don't need to have WotG to get Afflatus Solace/Misery or Composure; you don't need ASA or MKE to get Avatar's Favor.
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            • #21
              Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

              Yes, you could level to 75 with just the base FFXI. Up until now that his how the game was designed, revolving around a maximum level of 75 which is what they had always stated as would be the maximum.

              Now they threw that out the window that the same time as they announced 3 new addons that introduce new areas. Coincidence? There is nowhere in the game where the normal mobs are hard enough to give experience worth leveling on from 75 all the way to 99 which pretty much suggests that they are going to have to add new areas with harder mobs. The only areas they have hinted at adding are with a paid add-on.

              Previously they have never required an expansion to level up. However previously they have also never released an update that pretty much breaks all balance that came before it. I say that it is a valid concern that they may be requiring the purchase of the new addons in order to level to 99, or at least level to 99 with your skills up to snuff.

              And if they do require it, that's a pretty dickish move.
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              • #22
                Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

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                • #23
                  Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

                  What's that supposed to be from? Your imagination or some disclosed information?

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                  • #24
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                    I totally got you Grizzy ^^

                    But that would be a piece... infact. Incoming new thread in a minuto... gotta go poop....brb.

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                    • #25
                      Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

                      Man that toilet must have some horrific suction. I think Shepard got sucked down.
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                      • #26
                        Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

                        Originally posted by TheGrandMom View Post
                        Man that toilet must have some horrific suction. I think Shepard got sucked down.
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                        • #27
                          Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

                          Thanks D ^^

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                          • #28
                            Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

                            Originally posted by Feba
                            But I mean I do not mind a good looking man so long as I do not have to view his penis.
                            Originally posted by Taskmage
                            God I hate my periods. You think passing a clot through a vagina is bad? Try it with a penis.
                            Originally posted by DakAttack
                            ...I'm shitting dicks out of my eyeballs in excitement for the next bestgreating game of all time ever.

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                            • #29
                              Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

                              Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
                              Previously they have never required an expansion to level up. However previously they have also never released an update that pretty much breaks all balance that came before it.
                              Level Sync. Which I believe was welcomed by the community with open arms, to say the least.

                              Originally posted by Vanafest Website, Level Cap Increase
                              New camping grounds are scheduled to be added to cater to the anticipated rise in demand for experience parties. Furthermore, the redistribution of monsters in existing areas is also under consideration.
                              Of all the things there are for S-E to forget about when increasing the level cap, it'd be silly to think that they'd forget to put in an even remotely reasonable method of getting there. On that page, Abyssea isn't mentioned until a few paragraphs later. Take that for what you will, but I confidently stand by my statement of the level cap increase being completely independent of the Abyssea add-ons, which shalll simply provide more content for the level ranges in question.
                              Originally posted by Armando
                              No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
                              Originally posted by Armando
                              Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
                              Originally posted by Taskmage
                              GOD IS MIFFED AT AMERICA

                              REPENT SINNERS OR AT LEAST GIVE A NONCOMMITTAL SHRUG

                              GOD IS AMBIVALENT ABOUT FURRIES

                              THE END IS COMING ONE OF THESE DAYS WHEN GOD GETS AROUND TO IT
                              Originally posted by Taskmage
                              However much I am actually smart, I got that way by confronting how stupid I am.
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                              • #30
                                Re: The next FFXI update (May20th I think?)

                                There's a reason they're removing level caps in CoP areas.

                                Hint, it's not to make CoP easier.
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