Now here's a stupid question for you..

[T.Drakari]

I've been lurking a bit through the boards and reading what I can.. but one thing rings true.

The hatred for stupid/lazy people.

This I can understand; and sympathize with. So the question:

Is there anything that is like a guide to certain level ranges?

Ambiguous question; I know. For instance; I want to know what I should have completed (by now at 36) and what I should look to complete in the very near future. I'd hate to be one of those guys listed in the pet peeve thread for not doing something correctly.

I've made DRG my main for now; and have practically memorized the guides, but have also been looking for a decent level range vs. melee food guide. If those don't exist, then i'll break down and excel it out, but I'm wanting to save myself some time here.

I really really enjoy this game, and it's community, and I don't want to piss anyone off with poor playing skills.

[Ketaru]

Re: Now here's a stupid question for you..

I would think merely periodically checking the AH would be a good start. It has worked for a jobs I've leveled. It's probably more about knowing what is important to your job (which you'd be better off asking a DRG than me). But some choices are obviously stupid (wearing INT rings on DRG, no matter how updated they are) and some choices are obviously lazy (wearing a weapon 20 levels below your range).

I'm willing to bet you already do try to know as much as you can. Stupid/lazy people generally don't care enough to ask for advice.

[T.Drakari]

Re: Now here's a stupid question for you..

Thank you.

Yeah, i'm trying; but there are some things I'm not sure about.. like when should I work on leveling my home country rank, or what else should I be doing other than jump, ws, and stabby stabby..

Things are early yet, and i'm sure i'll figure something out; but I don't want to suck horribly either.. lol.

[Mhurron]

Re: Now here's a stupid question for you..

Thank you.

Yeah, i'm trying; but there are some things I'm not sure about.. like when should I work on leveling my home country rank, or what else should I be doing other than jump, ws, and stabby stabby..

Things are early yet, and i'm sure i'll figure something out; but I don't want to suck horribly either.. lol.

Country rank should be leveled as you go as far as you can as it a gives you a- bit of gil, b- has rewards like airship travel c- increases the duration of Signet and d- continuing the story is a nice, easily attainable goal that can help prevent burnout.

Also, get your outpost warps done as you can.


FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

It is not the bible but it is good. Every job has multiple guides. Missions, and many quests give a suggested level.

Final Fantasy XI Auction House - FFXIAH.com
The power search function can help you track down gear before you find yourself on the wrong end of a rant.

If you have a question, it has most likely already been asked and answered. This sites search and Google in general are your friend.

Also, when you're in a LS, learn who knows what they're talking about and who is full if shit. Listen and ask the one, ignore the other. Which one is up to you, but one course has a much better outcome.

[Romyro]

Re: Now here's a stupid question for you..

Yeah, i'm trying; but there are some things I'm not sure about... Like when should I work on leveling my home country rank, or what else should I be doing other than jump,

I can’t remember when (possibly now for you) but you’ll want to get rank 5 at the very least. Iirc this gives you airship access and a route to the jungles…etc. I don’t remember the missions so I don’t recall if/what lvl you need to be.

Unfortunately I cant help you with Drg…mine is lvl 1.

In all honesty…that fact that you said you this…

I've made DRG my main for now; and have practically memorized the guides, but have also been looking for a decent level range vs. melee food guide. If those don't exist, then i'll break down and excel it out, but I'm wanting to save myself some time here.

Leads me to believe that your already ahead of the curve for a lvl 36. If you’re honestly digging into it this much, you most likely wont have to worry about being horrible.

And you seem like your willing to ‘learn’. That right there…is HUGE. Willingness to experiment and learn from those experiences is what makes a good player in my book.

Learn the game at your rate. If you’re speaking truthful about the info above, you should fall into the more experience crowd rather quickly.

[Mhurron]

Re: Now here's a stupid question for you..

I can’t remember when (possibly now for you) but you’ll want to get rank 5 at the very least. Iirc this gives you airship access and a route to the jungles…etc. I don’t remember the missions so I don’t recall if/what lvl you need to be.

The Kahzam Airship pass is separate from any nation missions.

Rank 1 missions can be soloed by any job by the time you get around ~15.

Mission 2-1 can be soloed around level 20. Mission 2-3 is capped at level 25 so there isn't much point to waiting on doing those.

3-3 (?), the one where you have to run up delkfutts tower can be soloed by someone in their mid-40's iirc, but you want your airship pass before then so don't be afraid of people and get some higher help. Same with the Rank 4 missions for your airship pass. It's not unusual to have first time players have their airship pass before level 30 because of higher level linkshell help.

Mission 5-1 is level 50 capped, so it can wait until you're, well, level 50.

[Armando]

Re: Now here's a stupid question for you..

Additionally you should work on getting as many Outpost Warps as you can as early as you can; they greatly improve your ability to get to places quickly.

WotG also introduced a few more shortcuts you're gonna want when you're in your 50's for coffer hunting.

The biggest annoyance you can give anyone that's trying to help you out is to suck at moving.

[Lunaryn]

Re: Now here's a stupid question for you..

As for food, the definitive resource for this when I started was ffxi.somepage.com. I'm striking that out there to forestall any quick jumps; the site is extremely out of date and unmaintained, and a haven for malicious banner ads bearing keyloggers and other nasties. DO NOT consider going there unless you have sufficient protections (strong ad blocking, scripts disabled, iframes disabled, etc.). Unfortunately, I don't know if there is any other site that has recreated its food guide, so it may still be the best place to go to get a start on that. If you don't mind sifting through raw HTML though, you might try using wget instead of a web browser; I think the page you're looking for is called food.php.

Edit: Don't think downloading the page via wget and then viewing in a web browser is safe; it can easily request resources from the internet as a downloaded copy, and the browser may even trust it more for being on the local machine. If you download, view in a plaintext editor only please (e.g. NotePad, emacs, nano, maybe wordpad, NOT Word or OpenOffice or anything else that supports rich documents; wordpad is probably okay simply because it's from the pre-HTML days and hasn't had any formats added to it in over a decade).

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Now here's a stupid question for you..

Lunaryn's post made me search for it, but it doesn't seem like FFXIClopedia has any decent general food guide. (There is a pretty lousy "Food Guide by Suroot", but it is a personal guide, so I'd rather not edit massively.)

I've toyed with idea of writing a food guide for FFXIClopedia before, but didn't get very far; guess I can try again? Anyone wants to help me? I can especially use help for RNGs and DD CORs.

It would be a good idea to keep people away from Somepage, and I think the food guide is the last semi-useful thing on the site at this oint. (No offense, but if you're advising Emacs as the viewing tool to anyone but Unix/Linux power users, it's probably a better idea just to pretend the site doesn't exist--do not even mention it. lol.)

[Armando]

Re: Now here's a stupid question for you..

Unless the FFXIClopedia section is out of date, is there really a need for a guide? It wouldn't be bad to have one but at the same time it's not exactly hard to look at the food list and conclude "+19% Accuracy is better than +16% as long as the food's still uncapped." FFXIClopedia already lists them in ascending order, too.

Even if you wrote a guide, any thrifty spender will still have to do homework because prices vary from server to server and over time. To me Tavnazian Tacos have always been a huge waste of money for every day use when you consider the little benefit they provide over your run-of-the-mill Fishkabobs, but there are people with big wallets and couldn't care less.

And if the person can't determine whether the stats of X food make it worth picking over Y, he should probably be reading a stat guide, not a food guide.

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Now here's a stupid question for you..

I'd agree a new guide wouldn't be too useful except for two reasons:

1. We have a lot of food choices, probably quite overwhelming to beginners.

Take a look at "Dish Types" (on the Food page), and would you have thought of looking under "Soups" for Ranger food? (i.e. Pot-au-Feu) I wouldn't have, except a RNG on my LS mentioned it's his default food a few nights ago and it had a funny name--wanting to know what it is because I was compiling RNG food list, I looked under Seafood and Meat & Eggs without success. In the end, I had to Google for a correct spelling, then went back to FFXIclopedia to find it.

If a relatively experienced player like me had that much trouble, it is likely very confusing for beginners.

2. If the new guide is useful enough, it may divert what traffic Somepage receives for its food guide. (One can but hope...)

* * *

This is the start of it:

General Food Usage Guide

Planning on adding a RDM specific section since different food fits different roles in party. Will have mini-sections for NIN and DD/Hybrid PLD tanks. (No, not taking defense food out, nor will the guide criticize either defensive or DD PLD.)

[Armando]

Re: Now here's a stupid question for you..

Take a look at "Dish Types" (on the Food page), and would you have thought of looking under "Soups" for Ranger food? (i.e. Pot-au-Feu) I wouldn't have, except a RNG on my LS mentioned it's his default food a few nights ago and it had a funny name--wanting to know what it is because I was compiling RNG food list, I looked under Seafood and Meat & Eggs without success. In the end, I had to Google for a correct spelling, then went back to FFXIclopedia to find it.

No, but assuming we're referring people to FFXIClopedia you wouldn't be looking by food groups but rather by stat.

Although, it seems the food lists are a tad outdated. Might be a better start to update those with the new foods since they're the "official" food pages, whereas guides are just that and should take lower priority.

Also Rice Dumplings have deprecated in terms of performance a bit due to Marinara Pizza offering the same Accuracy at 15, at least twice as much by 25, coupled with the same Attack% and a slightly higher Attack cap. The pizzas also have similar cost, as Dumplings fluctuate between 7-8k per stack (6 hours) and Marinara Pizza are 4k/stack (3 hours) on Midgard. Only catch is the risk of early death, which artificially increases your average cost depending on how often you die.

Fish Miths also deserve to be mentioned in the same level bracket Boiled Crab is mentioned on account of being cheaper and the fact that you won't notice a 2% difference. Chiefkabobs are therefore an equally valid suggestion since they tend to be marginally cheaper than buying two stacks of Mithkabobs. In Midgard you could buy a stack of Boiled Crab for 10k and have it last 6 hours or you could buy a stack of Chiefkabobs for 13k and have it last 12. Steamed Crab is also far more competitively priced than its NQ in Midgard, at 14-15k a stack. Even if fairly equivalent it's worth mentioning them all since both Boiled/Steamed Crab and Chiefkabobs are all are slow sellers and one or more of them may be sold out when you check the AH.

[fairyoracle75]

Re: Now here's a stupid question for you..

My DRG is 57. And pretty much the basic rule I've used is increase DEX, ACC as priorities and STR and Attack as much as I reasonably can.

At level 37 I'd get some of your racial gear pieces that increase any of those stats. At that level I believe I remember some rings give decent DEX. Get a republic subliguer which pretty much will run you for a long time. I think its beyond 60 when it stops being useful. Volan's are a great DRG only item that increase the ACC of Jump. If you have to swap those with other foot gear with macs to optimize other stats when you're melee. Get Life Belt as soon as you can.

I generally used sole sushi at that level which worked well for me but I think most people are using Marinara Pizza now.

Dragoon - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

A lot of good guides there but the most helpful to me have been:

Dragoon Equipment Guide - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

Dragoon Guide by Zan - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

DRG Soloing? - Killing Ifrit - a Final Fantasy community

Also these links are good when playing with gear to see how much it will affect your stats:

FFXI - Claquesous Equipment

I saw someone say somepage might have trogans but I haven't had any trouble referencing this guide for the stats of many foods:

Food Effects Guide - Final Fantasy XI - somepage.com

Oh and for soloing it pays to pick 1 of each subjob which will give you the different wyvern behaviors to level up:

While I've used mostly /RDM for soloing until now I have actually found I enjoy /DNC soloing. /WHM gives you healing breath. Depending on the mob I find I'll like different subs for soloing so experiment.

For parties I have /WAR, /SAM and /THF. I genreally use /SAM.

Also putting the subs you have available in search might get you invited to different kinds of parties.

[T.Drakari]

Re: Now here's a stupid question for you..

Thanks for the advice all.

I decided to go back to my RDM, so i've been reading this guide (forget who the author is, but he posts here.. dancing red mage in the sig).. it's quite possibly the most amazing thing i've seen.

I was a bit nervous stepping into groups after I hit 41, but I've got the refresh/haste cycles down, quick on the dispels, and enjoying what I can.. just about to hit 50 (typing this during downtime in the pt)

Loving it.

Now I get to work on doing the Limit 1 mission. How exciting.

Edit: Callisto is his name. I felt I needed to give proper credit to such an awesome guide.