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I found a very fun and interesting article over at www.jpbutton.com written by Elmer the Pointy (who may or may not frequent these forums anymore, not sure.) I thought I'd share with the rest of the community. Have a look, it's really interesting.
JP Questions for EN Players
JP/EN Discussion / 和英討è°</STRONG> by: Elmer the Pointy
Here are 10 questions picked out from Japanese players. A couple may seem on the angry side, but I thought people might appreciate the chance to show how many of us really don’t participate in actions that are intended to harass and annoy other players. Just like not all Japanese players say JP only or harbor disdain for foreigners, not all foreign players take part in bad behavior that we tend to be labeled with. Perhaps it is important to just show them that some of these misconceptions are plain untrue, so I hope you aren’t too upset by the opinions contained within.
I also remembered how a lot of people enjoyed the banana question last time, and there were several requests for more Japanese memes and in-jokes. I requested that they provide a few as a bonus, and there are a couple light-hearted ones are mixed in there as well, so I hope you find it to be a good balance. Answers can be provided here, or on a community forum near you.
Allakhazam
Blue Gartr
FFXIclopedia
Quetzalcoatl Daily News
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1. Do foreign players have a lot of interest in joining social Japanese Linkshells? (Especially ones with only JP members) I ask because when I recruit for my shell in Japanese, I get a lot of tells from foreigners looking to join. Personally, I feel like even if they could understand my /shout, it still would be hard to keep up with regular conversation. They wouldn’t understand pop-culture references to old TV shows, for instance.
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2. Parties that cycle in replacement members seem to be popular amongst foreigners, but a lot of times the party will just disband once the replacement arrives. Of course, there are times when the replacement is contacted before they get all the way there, but there are many instances when no one says anything. There are also many cases where inappropriate jobs are invited and the party can no longer function well.
To me, this is a big reason behind some of the negative images Japanese players have about foreign players. What do you think about this?
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3. Why does it seem like many foreign players don’t bother to bring medicines and potions to Missions and BCs? Many Japanese players make sure to have Vile Elixirs, Hi-Potions and/or Reraise Earrings.
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4. Sometimes I see foreign pick-up parties recruiting for members using Auto-Translate, but then when I join the party, all the conversation and battle planning is in English. I’ll ask for them to {Please use the Auto-Translate function.} but nobody ever does. If you are going to /shout for help with the Auto-Translator, why not use it in the party? It feels like I was tricked.
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5. How many NA and EU players do Campaign? Any thoughts about the recent nerf to Fortifications?
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6. What equipment do you think has great stats but horrible looks?
What equipment do you think has the best graphics?
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7. Outside of your normal party gear, is there any equipment that you go out of your way to get strictly for looks? What are your favorite pieces of casual equipment?
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8. I’m a Mithra, and I find that a lot of foreigners seem to be into Mithra fashion. They examine me and ask where I got my equipment and such. Do you think male players enjoy dressing up their Mithra in cute outfits?
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9. I wonder if you calculate the XP/hr of parties, and if so, do you think that Skillchain/Magic Burst or Weaponskill spam produces the best results? Before parsing became widespread, Japanese players used to think Skillchain/Magic Burst was the best.
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10. How come it seems like so many people don’t utilize Search Comments properly? Why don’t they write their camp location for others to see? Also, it’s strange to see so many people seeking without basic information written like available jobs and where they can access. Don’t you want an invite?
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11. If you know you are going to be busy, how come you don’t alert people at the beginning of the party instead of surprising everyone at the last minute?
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12. Honestly, the largest difference in thinking between Japanse and foreign players exists
in the Merit party.
You often say 5 DDs and a RDM is so good, but having a single, solitary healer is hard
on the RDM.
Japanese realize that healers can be in short supply, so we make sacrifices to lighten
their burden, like subbing a mage job, or using Utsusemi.
I feel like many people don’t show proper respect to healers.
When we say JP ONLY, it isn’t always an issue of language,
but the fact that we feel there are other dangers and demerits associated with
a non-JP party, stemming from our different play-styles, that we wish to avoid.
This key difference in thinking, more than any race or language issue,
is what really sets us apart as players. They are just looking to sit back, relax
and earn some decent XP.
Please feel free to provide your own insight and thoughts.
Discuss!!!
JP Questions for EN Players
JP/EN Discussion / 和英討è°</STRONG> by: Elmer the Pointy
Here are 10 questions picked out from Japanese players. A couple may seem on the angry side, but I thought people might appreciate the chance to show how many of us really don’t participate in actions that are intended to harass and annoy other players. Just like not all Japanese players say JP only or harbor disdain for foreigners, not all foreign players take part in bad behavior that we tend to be labeled with. Perhaps it is important to just show them that some of these misconceptions are plain untrue, so I hope you aren’t too upset by the opinions contained within.
I also remembered how a lot of people enjoyed the banana question last time, and there were several requests for more Japanese memes and in-jokes. I requested that they provide a few as a bonus, and there are a couple light-hearted ones are mixed in there as well, so I hope you find it to be a good balance. Answers can be provided here, or on a community forum near you.
Allakhazam
Blue Gartr
FFXIclopedia
Quetzalcoatl Daily News
——-
1. Do foreign players have a lot of interest in joining social Japanese Linkshells? (Especially ones with only JP members) I ask because when I recruit for my shell in Japanese, I get a lot of tells from foreigners looking to join. Personally, I feel like even if they could understand my /shout, it still would be hard to keep up with regular conversation. They wouldn’t understand pop-culture references to old TV shows, for instance.
——-
2. Parties that cycle in replacement members seem to be popular amongst foreigners, but a lot of times the party will just disband once the replacement arrives. Of course, there are times when the replacement is contacted before they get all the way there, but there are many instances when no one says anything. There are also many cases where inappropriate jobs are invited and the party can no longer function well.
To me, this is a big reason behind some of the negative images Japanese players have about foreign players. What do you think about this?
——-
3. Why does it seem like many foreign players don’t bother to bring medicines and potions to Missions and BCs? Many Japanese players make sure to have Vile Elixirs, Hi-Potions and/or Reraise Earrings.
——-
4. Sometimes I see foreign pick-up parties recruiting for members using Auto-Translate, but then when I join the party, all the conversation and battle planning is in English. I’ll ask for them to {Please use the Auto-Translate function.} but nobody ever does. If you are going to /shout for help with the Auto-Translator, why not use it in the party? It feels like I was tricked.
——-
5. How many NA and EU players do Campaign? Any thoughts about the recent nerf to Fortifications?
——-
6. What equipment do you think has great stats but horrible looks?
What equipment do you think has the best graphics?
——-
7. Outside of your normal party gear, is there any equipment that you go out of your way to get strictly for looks? What are your favorite pieces of casual equipment?
——-
8. I’m a Mithra, and I find that a lot of foreigners seem to be into Mithra fashion. They examine me and ask where I got my equipment and such. Do you think male players enjoy dressing up their Mithra in cute outfits?
——-
9. I wonder if you calculate the XP/hr of parties, and if so, do you think that Skillchain/Magic Burst or Weaponskill spam produces the best results? Before parsing became widespread, Japanese players used to think Skillchain/Magic Burst was the best.
——-
10. How come it seems like so many people don’t utilize Search Comments properly? Why don’t they write their camp location for others to see? Also, it’s strange to see so many people seeking without basic information written like available jobs and where they can access. Don’t you want an invite?
——-
11. If you know you are going to be busy, how come you don’t alert people at the beginning of the party instead of surprising everyone at the last minute?
——-
12. Honestly, the largest difference in thinking between Japanse and foreign players exists
in the Merit party.
You often say 5 DDs and a RDM is so good, but having a single, solitary healer is hard
on the RDM.
Japanese realize that healers can be in short supply, so we make sacrifices to lighten
their burden, like subbing a mage job, or using Utsusemi.
I feel like many people don’t show proper respect to healers.
When we say JP ONLY, it isn’t always an issue of language,
but the fact that we feel there are other dangers and demerits associated with
a non-JP party, stemming from our different play-styles, that we wish to avoid.
This key difference in thinking, more than any race or language issue,
is what really sets us apart as players. They are just looking to sit back, relax
and earn some decent XP.
Please feel free to provide your own insight and thoughts.
Discuss!!!
