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    Obligatory link to mention in Pet Peeve thread: http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/gen...tml#post780455

    Yes, this bugs me too. Fairy has an infamous teleport bot in Jeuno (note the last day's purchases and keep in mind that it never got the Vahzl crystal), whom I've long suspected of having RMT connections. (I've never hung around Whitegate long enough to know which are the telebots there.) And for what it's worth, I've seen it randomly say "hi" once in a while, too, so maybe that's part of its script. One time I idled overnight at a crag and my log was full of it going back and forth, so whether it's a bot or just a borg, it operates 24/7. I for one will be so glad to see that particular bot gone. I know people must have been suspecting it had RMT connections, but just didn't care and fed it gil anyhow. Guess why nobody bothers to teletaxi even on the rare day when it isn't logged in?

    Well, I noticed yesterday when I was in Whitegate that there are a lot of people looking for teleports. I even got one comment in /p chat while teletaxiing implying that the telebots were missing. And now the Jeuno bot is gone again. It sometimes vanishes for a day or two, even when it's not right after an update, so I'm not celebrating just yet.

    I sure hope this new RMT-pwner thing will find them if the gil really is going to RMT. I'm eagerly awaiting this month's STF unit report. Just seeing them even acknowledge in a report that there is such a thing as an RMT telebot would make my day. I find it hard to believe that they aren't aware of telebots yet. But it would be like them to know, and keep quiet about it until they can nuke them for good all at once.

    As for the amount of gil, being the monopoly teleporter from Jeuno probably brings in quite a bit of gil, even at 1K per, and it's completely automated, so you don't even have to hire a Chinese wage slave to keep it going. It may not be as much gil as from fish bots and (pre-patch) bird blood farming, and maybe that's why STF hasn't done anything about it yet -- it may be psychological warfare to let them keep running until after the RMT have been sufficiently demoralized from the recent fishing crackdowns.

    Maybe SE should put teleport/D2/Retrace/Recall NPCs in Jeuno/WG, but have them charge 5k-10k or more per teleport, and a varying scale by demand like chocobos, so as not to discourage tele-taxiing by players. It sure seems to be a good way to sink more excess gil out of the economy.
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    Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

    Please don't make whm more obsolete. RMT or not, they don't make too much consider the amount people you can get. Even when i am focused and invite people as they shout, max i made was 40-60ish k an hour.

    I personally also use teletaxi as a source of income and most newbie whm does too.
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    • #3
      Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

      The whole point is that telebots, which can ninja invite even the most insanely spelled names before you can finish typing the "/pcmd add" part with 80wpm touch-typing, are keeping white mage players from making any money doing tele-taxiing. And then, presumably, funneling the gil right into RMT.

      Also, the telebots have gotten people used to 1k teles. Once people get a bit frustrated they start shouting for 2k and 3k, and that's when I start to pay attention. So banninating telebots makes WHMs more money from tele-taxi in TWO ways, no ninja-bot competition, and no undercutting by ninja-bots. On Fairy, there is no way you can make even 20k an hour when ninja-invite bots are stealing all the fares.

      The bit about tele NPCs was added as an afterthought, and (being a WHM myself, as you'll notice in my sig) specifically worded to leave a big gap in pricing. If it's priced high enough, only lazy people with too much gil (which SE is happy to help them remove from the economy) will use it. This will provide more deflationary pressure to keep the NPC price from ever undercutting WHMs.

      As for getting gil, I made my newbie money harvesting W. Saruta, or at least I did until right after the September update, when the price of red grass cloth and fresh mugwort crashed on Fairy. And I could do it while watching TV, without having to fight ninja-invite bots to do it.
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        Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

        Originally posted by Elwynn View Post
        The whole point is that telebots, which can ninja invite even the most insanely spelled names before you can finish typing the "/pcmd add" part with 80wpm touch-typing, are keeping white mage players from making any money doing tele-taxiing. And then, presumably, funneling the gil right into RMT.

        Also, the telebots have gotten people used to 1k teles. Once people get a bit frustrated they start shouting for 2k and 3k, and that's when I start to pay attention. So banninating telebots makes WHMs more money from tele-taxi in TWO ways, no ninja-bot competition, and no undercutting by ninja-bots. On Fairy, there is no way you can make even 20k an hour when ninja-invite bots are stealing all the fares.

        The bit about tele NPCs was added as an afterthought, and (being a WHM myself, as you'll notice in my sig) specifically worded to leave a big gap in pricing. If it's priced high enough, only lazy people with too much gil (which SE is happy to help them remove from the economy) will use it. This will provide more deflationary pressure to keep the NPC price from ever undercutting WHMs.

        As for getting gil, I made my newbie money harvesting W. Saruta, or at least I did until right after the September update, when the price of red grass cloth and fresh mugwort crashed on Fairy. And I could do it while watching TV, without having to fight ninja-invite bots to do it.

        chargeing anything over 1k for main 3 tele and 1.5k for others.... is stupid -.-
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        • #5
          Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

          Fine. Forget I ever said anything about NPCs, then. That was just a stupid afterthought.

          My point is, there are RMT telebots, and (at least on Fairy), they ninja-invite the riders so fast that there is no way a WHM can make any decent money from teles with them around. And the money goes to RMT, which should be terminated with extreme predujice in any form.

          With that one bot gone from Jeuno, I'm starting to see WHMs with AF and Noble's Tunics doing teles, instead of the same fucking bot every time.
          Last edited by Elwynn; 01-25-2009, 08:50 AM.
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          >2012
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          • #6
            Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

            chargeing anything over 1k for main 3 tele and 1.5k for others.... is stupid -.-
            Not really, you're just cheap

            the RMT telebots usually just take whatever you give them, or nothing at all. That's why they have the monopoly. You may see players as greedy for wanting more than a paltry 1k for a teleport, but at least we know the "greedy" players are the real ones.

            But really, if you're still leaning on WHMs for transportation these days in FFXI and have played it for years, you're really behind the curve on taking advantage of the travel options available to you.

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            • #7
              Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

              Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
              Not really, you're just cheap

              the RMT telebots usually just take whatever you give them, or nothing at all. That's why they have the monopoly. You may see players as greedy for wanting more than a paltry 1k for a teleport, but at least we know the "greedy" players are the real ones.

              But really, if you're still leaning on WHMs for transportation these days in FFXI and have played it for years, you're really behind the curve on taking advantage of the travel options available to you.

              true, I rarely use a WHM for tele, and if I do tele, I do it myself, and change in a near by city/town

              only thing I use now adays is BLM's for their retrace spell
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              • #8
                Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

                I rarely make more than 10k an hour telewhoring/retraceslut on my server. I used to be able to do paperwork and earn gilz doing that but now you have to pay 100% attention and type FRIGGIN fast in order to get any fares. I'm a patient person and I can't do it for more than an hour usually because I become so frustrated. The tele/retrace bots are a pain in the ass and not only used by RMT.
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                • #9
                  Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

                  Id rather have a RMT tele bot then stand in WG shouting for a while. To be honest RMT is a joke, after seeing the mass ban the other day it makes you wonder who the real crooks are. I bank on the "legit" players. (Hope SE does as well).

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                  • #10
                    Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

                    Ya while the masses would like any form of tele there is, us honest telewhores get screwed. I don't have as much time (or energy) to play as much as I used to but I still need to make my 30k a week for Limbus. Short bursts of telewhoring do this for me but only if there isn't a bot around. I can't tell you how many times I've had to sell a couple silent oils/prizm powders to the NPC right before Limbus because I wasn't able to make a lousy 30k/15k in order to get in.
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                    But I mean I do not mind a good looking man so long as I do not have to view his penis.
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                    • #11
                      Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

                      Originally posted by Kailea View Post
                      chargeing anything over 1k for main 3 tele and 1.5k for others.... is stupid -.-
                      Are you kidding?


                      I'm toying with bring up WHM for the sole purpose of tele-taxi from WG- the folks there are absolutely desperate to get places fast for some reason- They don't even start with 1K shouts, it's

                      {Teleport-Holla} {Can I have it?} 4k

                      How can you turn that down?
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                      • #12
                        Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

                        Originally posted by Szkol View Post
                        Are you kidding?


                        I'm toying with bring up WHM for the sole purpose of tele-taxi from WG- the folks there are absolutely desperate to get places fast for some reason- They don't even start with 1K shouts, it's

                        {Teleport-Holla} {Can I have it?} 4k

                        How can you turn that down?
                        no I dont, but I only charge them 1k for it
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                        • #13
                          Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

                          1K you must be an RMT

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                          • #14
                            Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

                            I remember finding it difficult to get people into a group to tele taxi, it was my main source of income it was easy and convenient in Jueno when I first got there and it actually made me want to go out and get the more difficult teleport spells.

                            This Tele Ninjaing makes it sound like I'm going to have a very difficult time making income when I get back into the game.

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                            • #15
                              Re: RMT teleport bots... will they get pwned?

                              actually, is there any reason that the major cities shouldn't have NPCs to teleport people to crags? It's not like it makes sense to force players to use other PCs for this.

                              The only real disadvantage to having an NPC handle it would be the loss of income by legit telewhores. But I would suggest that it's not really fair to have a gil making facility that only ONE job can use, anyway, and that for semi-afk playing, there's crafting. It would be better to design a way for low level healers to easily make gil; like melee can easily and effectively farm. Maybe a "WHM reparation fund"; distribute the money NPC telewhores make to WHMs based on what teleport spells they have unlocked and how often they play WHM Or more seriously, something like a low level, one man escort quest (Say, the lowbie beastman zones)

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