Pandy Warden Killed last night!

[Yellow Mage]

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Ok, I got it! To counter Sabaron's completely misplaced "Sour Grapes" analogy to Pandemonium Warden, imagine this story instead:

Once upon a time there was a fox, and he wanted to get some grapes that were hanging high off a vine. Except this time, the fox convinced a human to go and get the grapes for him. All the other foxes stared at this fox with a displeasing glare after that day, as any of them could have done the same thing, but the entire point of getting the grapes in the first place was to get them within your own means, not by relying on trickery to do the job for you.

Replace "fox" with "alliance," "grapes" with "PW victory," and "convinced a human" with "logged out," and you'd have the story word for word. Moral of the story: gaming the system is never necessary and is always looked down upon. Sure, you could blindside anybody unawares with a cheap shot, or you could establish physical prowess through a fair fight.

[Feba]

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I kinda think that 'kitten, and myself, have every right to bitch about the hate logging. Why? We both have Dragoon above level 50.

I got High Jump, can I be mildly peeved?

They are all for taking breaks aren't they?

Sure, but I doubt they mean "As soon as you use up your MP, and until you're ready to spam nukes again" and the like.

Whatever gets the job done IS the right way.

MrArgus gets the job done. Ends do not by themselves justify the means.

[Sabaron]

Re: Pandy Warden Killed last night!

Ok, I got it! To counter Sabaron's completely misplaced "Sour Grapes" analogy to Pandemonium Warden, imagine this story instead:

Once upon a time there was a fox, and he wanted to get some grapes that were hanging high off a vine. Except this time, the fox convinced a human to go and get the grapes for him. All the other foxes stared at this fox with a displeasing glare after that day, as any of them could have done the same thing, but the entire point of getting the grapes in the first place was to get them within your own means, not by relying on trickery to do the job for you.

Replace "fox" with "alliance," "grapes" with "PW victory," and "convinced a human" with "logged out," and you'd have the story word for word. Moral of the story: gaming the system is never necessary and is always looked down upon. Sure, you could blindside anybody unawares with a cheap shot, or you could establish physical prowess through a fair fight.

You're insane...

I was patiently waiting for something insightful, and you vomit that up into the thread like a sick cat....

[TheGrandMom]

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Sure, but I doubt they mean "As soon as you use up your MP, and until you're ready to spam nukes again" and the like.

A break is a break, whether you are out of mp, hp, patience, whatever. They aren't going to be against taking a break.

[Feba]

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The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Feba For This Useful Post:
Sabaron (Today), Yellow Mage (Today)

Guys, did I just break the thread?

[Yellow Mage]

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You're insane...

Yes, but that has nothing to do with the matter at hand. Just because you cannot see the insight does not mean you should come at me with bitter words like "vomit" and "cat." (Yes, this is the internet, cats are bitter now.)

That, my friend, would be a true case of Sour Grapes.

ADD: Feba.

[TheGrandMom]

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I try not to encourage Feba's asinine comments but I get a kick out of other people doing it. Then when he gets really annoying they all start whining about him.

[Clever Ninja]

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Was I the only one that thought of the Chewbacca defense when YM brought up Air Bud? Seriously, that shit fit in there perfectly <_<.

I DUB THEE, THE AIR BUD DEFENSE. Now I need to photoshop Bud onto Edgeworth's body...

[Yellow Mage]

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That was clever, Ninja, and I had thought of it, too. The only thing was I was pointing out the use of said defense, which Sabaron had taken fondly to at the time but not so much recently as it would seem.

[Feba]

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I try not to encourage Feba's asinine comments

I love you too, GrandMom.

[TheGrandMom]

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I love you too, GrandMom.

Feba, you know they are because you do it on purpose.

[Feba]

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Feba, you know they are because you do it on purpose.

Only as much as you do.

[Sabaron]

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Guys, did I just break the thread?

No, you just made me laugh.

[Aksannyi]

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Elitist? For thinking that logging completely out of the game when you're supposed to be fighting a monster that you WANTED to fight is kinda stupid? Okay, that's kinda laughable. Congrats to them for killing it, but come on, SE did not intend this and we all fucking know it.

I've fought this mob before and while Astral Flow sucks ass, it really wasn't difficult at all to get to the final form. Getting a PW popset is hard, sure, but getting to the final form of this mob is easy enough that I'm sure any other linkshell can get there with enough time to play around and see what they can possibly do to get around it. But no, the FFXI community as a whole is going to take the easy way out and just use this log off method instead of trying to figure something else out that actually makes some sort of sense.

To me, this is NO different than the wall of justice, and I'm sure it will be patched.

Do I care that this other linkshell beat it before mine? Hardly. We don't care about PW, just had a member who was quitting and had a popset and that was his sendoff, so we did it. The drops are kinda lame at best, and the effort required is too much for the end result (seems to be a trend with SE lately). Pretty much all of us are more interested in upgrading mythics than killing PW, especially the more we learn about the mob.

I'll stand by what I said. Logging off to avoid something, when there is probably a better method of doing so in the game already, is stupid.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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"However you get it done is the right way" is an interesting cop-out.

I remember LSes on Titan using that rationale. They botted HNMs, MPKed whenever possible, even went so far as to steal jailors by dragging UFOs on other alliances.

All in the name of "getting it done." Some of them got banned, some of them turned out to be friends of mine.

Doesn't mean I shed one tear for them, though.

Getting it done by a certain means just because it works does not mean you'll earn respect at the end of the day. Some of us still value challenge and respecting others just as much as winning. Endgame turns into a series of pitstops only because some people want it that way, some of us don't look at a fight as the obstacle, but the main event.

Not saying you're like that TGM, but I've heard that term thrown around by all the wrong people before.