SE Strikes Again! (Obtaining Mythic Weapons)

[Clever Ninja]

Re: SE Strikes Again! (Obtaining Mythic Weapons)

The reward vs effort argument is obviously true, but when SE said in the Dev interview that "relic > mythic", they meant it, it's just people didn't believe em. That and the fact that the weapon description didn't specifically state that the double attack was an aftermath effect since a comma was missing, everyone pretty much had these hyped up(including myself).

The weapons are still good, and for the TAoU and WoTG jobs its all they got. Square isn't exactly too smart sometimes when it comes to stats on weapons sometimes. But also, considering how easy it is for people in endgame LS to get relics completed, did you honestly think they would make it as easy? >_>

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Yes, I know I'm just calling out the exception, not the rule, but not everyone that wants to do things solo do so because they want to see if they can, sometimes...

I've soloed up and down the game, but its always been more out of the necessity of a situation (like BST or levelling /DNC for Campaign) than because I want to prove myself as a soloist. People who want to "prove" they can solo tend to be more annoying than helpful, people who just solo aren't as annoying.

Yes, your RDM soloing an orc link in Monastic Cavern is totally awesome. All hail the Alcolytes of Avesta. Whatever, just fucking sleep it and help with the current fight, you dip.

The reward vs effort argument is obviously true, but when SE said in the Dev interview that "relic > mythic", they meant it, it's just people didn't believe em. That and the fact that the weapon description didn't specifically state that the double attack was an aftermath effect since a comma was missing, everyone pretty much had these hyped up(including myself).

People were calling them "relics" on BG back when they were unveiled as "mythics" and people being morons, they took what some guy said at BG and thought they were "relics" even though SE made it a point to distinguish the two by different names.

Yes, the DA thing not being put under Aftermath is SE's fault, but people who thought "Mythic >= Relic" only have themselves to blame.

I really didn't expect Mythic to be any easier, SE just said it would be different. And it is. At least you don't have to totally buy your mythic like you do Relic, which remains my only complaint regarding relic at all. Riches rather than skill are rewarded there, and history has proven that some Relic holders got there via RMT rather than genuine in-game effort.

Mythic is all effort and Alexandrites are dirt cheap, so while they're hard to get, players lacking resources can still obtain them. Thing is, you really have to have some connections and dedication to get it done.

I'd like to complete one mythic in my time, I just don't know if its going to be the SCH or COR one. Both look good.

[Armando]

Re: SE Strikes Again! (Obtaining Mythic Weapons)

So why no huge boost to cure potency for lv 3 AM for Yagrush, for example?

Because then you would bitch it's not broken enough because a WHM will never have 300 TP, which brings us right back to square 1 - bitching.

[Vyuru]

Re: SE Strikes Again! (Obtaining Mythic Weapons)

Oh god I love you Armando

[Ziero]

Re: SE Strikes Again! (Obtaining Mythic Weapons)

After all wasn't the entire point of these to enhance their jobs? So why no huge boost to cure potency for lv 3 AM for Yagrush, for example?

I dunno about you, but perma Divine Veil is one hell of an enhancement to Whm.

The weapons enhance the job, not the WS.

[Malacite]

Re: SE Strikes Again! (Obtaining Mythic Weapons)

Because then you would bitch it's not broken enough because a WHM will never have 300 TP, which brings us right back to square 1 - bitching.

lol touche. But I'm really just going from a flavor perspective. Oh sure it's not going to happen much without a SAM with Shikikoyo handy and I never said the lv 3 AM's were bad outside of it not stacking; I just think SE could have gone that extra mile if their goal really was to make these job-defining weapons.

It's the way they made them appear to rival or even surpass the relics (and then fail to deliver on that) that has earned them so much skorn.

[Caspian]

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It's the way they made them appear to rival or even surpass the relics (and then fail to deliver on that) that has earned them so much skorn.

Which takes us right back to here:

but when SE said in the Dev interview that "relic > mythic", they meant it,

So either people forgot they weren't going to be better than relics, or they saw what was intended to be aftermath (like bbq said, SE's fault), or they just looked at some of the more vague descriptions and said "SE doesn't know what they're talking about, these are so way better than relics".

[Aksannyi]

Re: SE Strikes Again! (Obtaining Mythic Weapons)

I didn't expect Mythics to be better than Relics. I knew what the devs had said. However, right now, it's easier to get a Relic than it is to get a Mythic, and considering Relics are superior, it should not be that way.

[Malacite]

Re: SE Strikes Again! (Obtaining Mythic Weapons)

I'd really like to know how they justify themselves claiming the two quests are equal in difficulty... neither are easy, but the way a Relic's progress can be accelerated by money is absurd in comparison to just how much end game activity you have to do for a Mythic. Really for a relic you just have to spam Dynamis which is hardly difficult.

You can't just spam Assault, Nyzul, or Salvage since the 3 are linked; you gotta do normal assaults again for that book as well as AP, but you need nyzul tokens to get the book... and you need AP to do salvage and since both assault and nyzul use the same tags you need to chose which to do 1st;


All you gotta do for dynamis is wait 3 days and cough up the gil.