SE Strikes Again! (Obtaining Mythic Weapons)

[Feenicks]

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Somewhere out there, the dev team and sundi are laughing and pointing fingers at us regular players.

Seriously though, I have to agree with Malacite on this one. Being a casual player (only endgame I do is Nyzul and Dynamis) I feel I have done alright with the gear that I have, but its painfully obvious that with as man warnings that SE puts into the game about "not forgetting friends, family, and real life" they make acquiring some of the best items in the game to require a sacrifice of those very same things. A lot of us DONT have the money to pay to upgrade a relic weapon, or the time to invest in doing all the crazy shit that is needed for a mythic weapon, so its pretty stupid to make things so damn difficult. Honestly now, the main reason I play is for the friends i have made in this game pure and simple. Were it not for them, i would have quit this game a LONG time ago.

Say what you will, but for all the shining moments SE has had, they still seem to have that crayon stuck in their brain like Homer Simpson......

Relic weapons and mythic weapons weren't designed for casual players though, that's the thing. If you play only to play with your friends, that's fine. You're having fun, isn't that good enough? Because relic and mythics exist, doesn't mean that you have to get them. Things like that are specifically designed for people who want a challenge and get rewarded for it at the end. Of course amazing items are difficult to obtain - that's the whole point. If you were handed the relic weapon of your choice as soon as you logged into the game, would it be any fun?

[Balfree]

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Feenicks has wisdom

[BurningPanther]

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If you were handed the relic weapon of your choice as soon as you logged into the game, would it be any fun?

You kidding? A Murgleis as soon as I logged in? Hell yeah it would. A damned blast.

[Illuen]

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I'm with Burningpanther, I'd fucking love a Yagrush as soon as I logged in.

[Ziero]

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Somewhere out there, the dev team and sundi are laughing and pointing fingers at us regular players.

Seriously though, I have to agree with Malacite on this one. Being a casual player (only endgame I do is Nyzul and Dynamis) I feel I have done alright with the gear that I have, but its painfully obvious that with as man warnings that SE puts into the game about "not forgetting friends, family, and real life" they make acquiring some of the best items in the game to require a sacrifice of those very same things. A lot of us DONT have the money to pay to upgrade a relic weapon, or the time to invest in doing all the crazy shit that is needed for a mythic weapon, so its pretty stupid to make things so damn difficult. Honestly now, the main reason I play is for the friends i have made in this game pure and simple. Were it not for them, i would have quit this game a LONG time ago.

Say what you will, but for all the shining moments SE has had, they still seem to have that crayon stuck in their brain like Homer Simpson......

If you're doing fine with the stuff you have now why complain about not being able to get Mythics/Relics? There is tons of content for casual players who only play for a little bit. Hell you said it yourself that the only thing you do is Nyzul and Dynamis, which means you're pretty much ignoring most of the other content in this game. Relics, and especially Mythics, are rewards for those who have gotten it all to aim for. Mythics even have the added bonus of making sure you do everything possible to do in ToAU, forcing you to *gasp* play the game to get something! Sure parts of it are a grind, but if they weren't people would have already flooded the game with these things. There is a massive difference between the casual player who can't do everything and the hardcore player who has done everything, and Mythics/Relics are the reward for those hardcore players. They don't cause people to play more because those who are actually going after it already play more then most.

Not really. These should be obtainable within a year for an average player putting in a couple of hours a day towards it, 6 months or less for the truly rich/hardcore. Beyond that is BS.

If you could do it within a couple of months it'd be stupid. But as is most players would like take well over a year if not two or more to complete these.

THAT is bull shit. There are plenty of ways to make things difficult without using time sinks and money, the two worst enemies of MMO players. But then that would require actual thought

XD and nice comic (Yes I'm aware it's a joke at my expense but it's done in good taste ^^ )

It's been about 6-9 months since Mythics were added to the game, and you already have people doing the BC for the final weapon. Hell, someone already has a Burtang. And of all the things people were forced to do to obtain it, from killing Beastmen Generals, to exploring all of Nyzul and Salvage to doing every assault twice to killing freaking Odin the *hardest* thing any of these people had to do was get the Alexandrites. People have to experiance every single possible challenge ToAU throws at them, many of them are completely unique and difficult challenges. But smart, well equiped players can still blow through all of them with little effort because good players are absurdly powerful.

Mythics are obtained exactly how people wanted relics to be obtained. Some seemingly "impossible" excessively "epic" quest that forced you to face some of the most powerful monsters and causes you to run all over the world in a long, difficult journey to aquire the most powerful weapons in game. And yet it still isn't enough to satisfy people who even if it had less requirements then that, wouldn't even come close to being able to get these.

Relics and Mythics are not for casual players and they never will be.

[Balfree]

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The problem is casual players also want them.

Its like wanting a really expensive car and complaining that its too hard to make that amount of money.

[Lmnop]

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For the record, I don't believe these to be for casual players, even 1-2 years in. I have no problem with the bar being set so high. So unlike a lot of people who say this "losing the pop set sucks" bit, that's not my angle.

Honestly, I kinda feel like it should be a lot longer. It should be another 6 months 'til we see these things.

But losing pop sets still isn't the answer.

[Ziero]

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I'll agree about the popset thing, but not because it's hard for Mythic hunters to obtain but because it's actively taking away from an entire LS. Everything else is titles and accomplishments, things everyone can get when they win. Or points and such where you can all accumulate them over time. Hell even the Alexandrites are something people can sell and get cash for. But the pop sets require a full alliance at the least and using them for the Mythics mean that LS has to give up a chance to fight the final mob in the system. And with a drop rate that's already pretty low, people needing these to attempt their own Mythic just makes it that much rarer to do the fight.

[Kuro]

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I was hopeing Mythic would involve something more akin to a hard ass fight that requires skill and luck and oerhaps a lead up hard storyline. Then let us slightley upgrade these to a more bass ass version with the retarded item grinding that they now require.

[Nuriko]

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It's just that to some people, good equipment isn't good enough; if it's not the best they think it's sub-par.

[Raydeus]

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It's just that to some people, good equipment isn't good enough; if it's not the best they think it's sub-par.

Exactly! I kept telling them that to the elitist morons that wanted me to stop using my hard earned Bee Spatha +1 just because I was lvl 50 already. But nobody listened.







...what? <_<;

[Ziero]

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I was hopeing Mythic would involve something more akin to a hard ass fight that requires skill and luck and oerhaps a lead up hard storyline. Then let us slightley upgrade these to a more bass ass version with the retarded item grinding that they now require.

....that's exactly what the have.

[Aksannyi]

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Now that some testing has been done on the first completed mythic, it's official, they suck. Aftermath is based on TP: 100, 200, or 300 TP used when you weaponskill, meaning you store TP to 300 (which is dumb, no one does that) or you get a shit effect.

Way to fail, SE. We were loling about them in LS last night ... epic suck. ><

[Ziero]

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Wasn't it said that the effects can actually stack so if you use three 100tp WS you can get the 300 tp effect?

Also, the weapons themself are already pretty powerful so any addition they give to stats would be a great bonus.

[Aksannyi]

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No, as far as I know you get the 100TP effect, and if you use another 100TP ws, you just get the same 100TP effect right after that, which is an accuracy bonus that you probably don't really need, lol.

They're pretty lol.

Still want Yagrush for the Divine Veil thing, but seriously, this was not what we were looking for in terms of time/effort spent ====> final reward. Harder to get than Zilart relics, but nowhere near as good. :/