SE Strikes Again! (Obtaining Mythic Weapons)

[Ziero]

Re: SE Strikes Again! (Obtaining Mythic Weapons)

I'm reading the topic now and that is kinda fail. 100 TP for acc bonus, 200 for Att bonus or 300 for DA is laughable. Still, they are great weapons with excellent bonuses (for the most part) for each job. SE said they wanted the RotZ ones to remain the strongest and I guess they got what they asked for.

[Aksannyi]

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Yeah, can't say I'm not disappointed, though.

Oh well. I guess I can save mah gilz.

[Ziero]

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I'd still get one if I could, though they're not as game breaking, they're still great weapons for the most part.

[Aksannyi]

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Pretty much, just not sure if the effort involved is worth the final outcome at this point, lol. Like I said on BG, I'll wait for testing to be done on the WHM mythic, and if it does actually have perma Divine Veil I'll work on it, otherwise, nah.

[Armando]

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Don't they attack multiple times on top of their high DPS, the Aftermath and the job-specific bonuses? That's pretty goddamned broken if you ask me. Look at Burtgang - higher base DPS and base DMG than Joyeuse, Enmity +10, Physical Damage Taken -10%, multi-hit. Or, hell, SAM's Kogarasumaru. Totally not broken to give SAMs a multi-hit weapon with 81 base damage and 10.8 DPS.

[Aksannyi]

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Nope, Double Attack is just part of the 300TP aftermath. Otherwise, no DA. Everything after the word "Aftermath" is completely dependent upon the amount of TP you spend to WS.

More testing is needed, of course, since the only one we know of is Burtgang, but it looks pretty shit if they all work the same way, which is probably the case.

[Armando]

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Ah, I see. I can see that still being good for SAM, not as good for the others.

[Ziero]

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Yea, it seems that you get the first effect only using a WS at 100-199 TP. The second effect only at 200-299 TP and the final effect only at 300 TP. And on top of that, only the first effect can be refreshed with a second WS. They're basically set up to be anti-TP burn weapons and that seems to have shoved a stick up the butts of many BGers because "they don't do what the description says".

Which is just hilarious

[Aksannyi]

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Well they say that it gives all three, which it does, but not at the same time. They could have put "or" in there or something. Stupid argument is stupid, though.

[Malacite]

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Seriously what the fuck...

Well, a few of these are worth it like Kenkonken and Tizona, but largely just... wow fucking fail. Now DRG gets to pick between not just one but two fail weapons.

[Lmnop]

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Knowing the facts, I'd still say:

Don't they attack multiple times on top of their high DPS, the Aftermath and the job-specific bonuses? That's pretty goddamned broken if you ask me. Look at Burtgang - higher base DPS and base DMG than Joyeuse, Enmity +10, Physical Damage Taken -10%, multi-hit. Or, hell, SAM's Kogarasumaru. Totally not broken to give SAMs a multi-hit weapon with 81 base damage and 10.8 DPS.

Double attacking all the time would be like 3 times as good as a Zilart Relic. Lower base DMG be damned. You know it. I know it.

Just a weapon with very good DPS and amazing additional effects is crazy enough.

That said, I didn't read the BG thing. How sure are we that it's an "or" for the bonuses? Honestly, I don't believe it for a second. I know S-E does some really dumb stuff but that's just counter-intuitive.

Oh, finally: what mythic was this tested on? How sure are we that they'll all follow the same order? (For instance, it'd make sense for the GA to get the Double Attack boost at 100% and the acc/attack boosts later).

[Ziero]

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The guy with the 'tang did plenty of test and video'd the results. DA didn't kick in until he used it at 300% and it lasted 2 minutes each time with no Att bonus.

Personally, I could easily see how 100tp constantly giving a 50% DA is broken on weapons of this calibur but I still think they could have created a better balance then just going with a simple "Or" effect.

However, it is still possible that different weapons will grant different effects at different tiers, but I still don't see DA coming in until 300%.

[Malacite]

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That said, I didn't read the BG thing. How sure are we that it's an "or" for the bonuses? Honestly, I don't believe it for a second. I know S-E does some really dumb stuff but that's just counter-intuitive.

See for yourself

SE Fails

[Clever Ninja]

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Alexandrite prices are prolly gonna start dropping <_<. I honestly wasn't all that crazy about Mythics in the first place, there are 2 relics I'd rather get my hands on first. This just kinda sealed the deal for me.

But hey, at least DRG got an extremely uber WS out of this whole Mythic deal.

[Malacite]

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Some of them are still very good and worth getting, namely the ToAU and WotG jobs since they don't have access to a relic weapon (yet)


However, I still think the pet jobs are very much worth shooting for as well. Getting 300 TP, particularly in meripo on Birds is a pain in the ass but the pay off is insane;

The Aftermath extends to the pets, so now suddenly DRG will find themselves double attacking alongside their wyverns! And a BST doing this with Sabotender... yikes! Not so hot for SMN though, and from what I understand PUP's RNG frame is best for DD and never melees

Any job that can opt for a Relic is better off going for relic though it seems.