Dual boxing nonsubjobbed classes

[skeeterlite]

Are there any 2 main job classes that can duo(dual box) reasonably well enough to get to 18 and get the subjob quests done? My RDM is 15 now and having a helluva time trying to get to 18 on Leviathan. It's really irritating.. all I want to do is get the sub quest done so I can start to actually experience the game.


Any advice would be great.

[Mog]

Re: Dual boxing nonsubjobbed classes

Are there any 2 main job classes that can duo(dual box) reasonably well enough to get to 18 and get the subjob quests done? My RDM is 15 now and having a helluva time trying to get to 18 on Leviathan. It's really irritating.. all I want to do is get the sub quest done so I can start to actually experience the game.


Any advice would be great.

It would be faster and easier for you to just keep your flag up in the dunes. Try to meet some people and just ask for help in one of the parties you're in.

[Ameroth]

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Lots of jobs duo well together.

But it's not hard to solo that 8k exp you need to get to level 18.

[skeeterlite]

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Flag was up in dunes yesterday for over 13 hours (literally) with no offer of PT whatsoever. Most annoying thing ever, as a new player to the game. I've soloed to 15 so far.. and really am getting 'over' the whole soloing thing. There's no point playing when you can't get a group, at least imo.

I'm just overly annoyed as a new player.

[Minimee]

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first of all welcome to the game and this site. now about your problem, i try and avoid the dunes alltogether anymore. yes most of the partys i have had there recently have been extremely good. i will tell you i really plan to solo to 20 on any job i do now. rdm is a good solo job, not having a sub yet does make it harder. my theory to soloing is this; kill easy prey mobs for 25 exp if i can kill those and not have to stop and rest. 10 of those before i have to rest is 250 exp. were most people want to fight a decent challenge for 75 to 100 exp, which fight itself lasts 3 times longer, and they rest after each fight. they also run a higher risk of death which equals exp loss. i can solo exp faster solo than going to dunes. and getting a party even a really good party. heres why, 1st the time it takes to not only get to dunes, but get to camp without agroing and dying. 2nd when you get there you find out they are waiting for someone to come from windy or bastok, and have no clue how to get there. these first 2 steps waste the best part of an hour if not longer. once the party starts, it always seem they want to fight mobs they are not ready to fight. take a lvl 13 group with no blm and kill a crab sometime. you will probaly die with no power level and fight will take 15 mins with one.
heres a tip for soloing: buy 3 or 4 stacks of selbina milk from npc in sandy between ah and armor shop. these are really cheap and they let you regen hp. 2nd again kill easy to kill mobs for lower but faster exp. if your doing rdm or any mage job head to jueno at 19 for your partys.

[skeeterlite]

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Yea I figured it'd involve more soloing. That's not what I want in an MMO, and I don't think FFXI is going to be my cup of tea. It's felt like a total waste of time so far, no "mmo" to it at all.

[Nuriko]

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The game is actually more PT-based than many, it's just that putting together a PT can be really frustrating. You need the right jobs to do it...

Anyway, soloing while seeking is probably one of your best options.

[Taskmage]

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What you might try doing if you don't feel like building your own party or can't find enough people is seeking out someone else in your level range to duo with. Just about any combination will work if you can pace yourself to need rest at about the same time. Probably get better experience with signet on, too.

Dual boxing is hardly going to be any more fun than soloing.

[Ameroth]

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Yea I figured it'd involve more soloing. That's not what I want in an MMO, and I don't think FFXI is going to be my cup of tea. It's felt like a total waste of time so far, no "mmo" to it at all.

After level 20, you'll be kicking yourself for questioning the need for a group in this game. Pretty much everything you want to accomplish with worthwhile rewards is going to require a group. Your first step is to realize EXPing is not the entire aspect of FFXI. Since you started playing several years after the game was launched, many players have higher level jobs and don't often return to Valkurm Dunes to exp.

I would wait until you get around level 20 or so before throwing in the towel on this game.

[skeeterlite]

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I'm well aware rewards are going to require a group to achieve. I don't understand your comment that I'll be questioning things. If I can't get a group at a lower level, what's to say the rest of the levels are going to be any different. You're right, I have come to the game years after release, and because of that folks aren't very welcome of newbies. I've said I was new to the game and booted from pt's while omw to them - this isn't dunes specific.

[Ameroth]

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I don't understand your comment that I'll be questioning things. If I can't get a group at a lower level, what's to say the rest of the levels are going to be any different.

I know that after playing through all 15 levels of one job you have oh so much experience behind the workings of this game, but let me explain.

Many people simply do not want to even fuck around with going through Valkurm Dunes anymore. Most players that are not new have the subjobs and dedication needed to solo their jobs to at least level 20. This is pretty much the biggest reason as to why you find yourself not getting invited to parties every few minutes.

However, after levels 20-30, the ability to solo for worthwhile exp drops dramatically for many jobs. Some days you may still find yourself waiting around for a few hours for an invite, but other days you may get an invite before you even get your party flag up. I 100% assure you that leveling into the 30's, 40's, 50's and beyond will require the assistance of a group (unless you intend to spend hours getting each level solo).

I understand the frustrations you have at the moment. This is why I suggest waiting until you have moved your job past the dunes before deciding you understand all the inner-workings of this vastly in-depth game.

But then again, if you've already decided FFXI isn't your cup of tea, I'm kind of just wasting my time.

[ItazuraNhomango]

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I'm well aware rewards are going to require a group to achieve. I don't understand your comment that I'll be questioning things. If I can't get a group at a lower level, what's to say the rest of the levels are going to be any different.

Heh. If you play longer and try to join parties the best you can, you're bound to... make friends.

Sounds a bit silly, but the FFXI community is pretty big on friendship. Friends invite you to join Linkshells, too, where you get to meet more people who can potentially become your friends.

With except of one Windurst mission fight, I did all the mission fights so far--Zilart 14, most of Windurst missions, all of Chain of Promathia, and all of Treasure of Aht Urghan--with Linkshell members. I'm also one rank away from Captain in Assault, with almost all Tier 8 missions done, thanks to my LS.

So, make friends, get in different LS's, and see what happens. That's the best way to experience FFXI, IMO.

[skeeterlite]

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I know that after playing through all 15 levels of one job you have oh so much experience behind the workings of this game, but let me explain.

Many people simply do not want to even fuck around with going through Valkurm Dunes anymore. Most players that are not new have the subjobs and dedication needed to solo their jobs to at least level 20. This is pretty much the biggest reason as to why you find yourself not getting invited to parties every few minutes.

However, after levels 20-30, the ability to solo for worthwhile exp drops dramatically for many jobs. Some days you may still find yourself waiting around for a few hours for an invite, but other days you may get an invite before you even get your party flag up. I 100% assure you that leveling into the 30's, 40's, 50's and beyond will require the assistance of a group (unless you intend to spend hours getting each level solo).

I understand the frustrations you have at the moment. This is why I suggest waiting until you have moved your job past the dunes before deciding you understand all the inner-workings of this vastly in-depth game.

But then again, if you've already decided FFXI isn't your cup of tea, I'm kind of just wasting my time.

Way to be an ass. I used Dunes as an example. There are plenty of other spots that one can go than the dunes - I'm a newb and I've figured that out. I may be new to the game, but I've been playing MMO's since 97. They're all the same, so you can get off your high horse at any point because the game isn't any different from EQ at its core - just different classes and different spells.

My responses weren't inflammatory at all, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to jump on me for asking a question. I didn't respond or act like I knew the very inner workings of the game - even if they are the same as basically every other mmo around.

Regarding the post on community - that's what my last post revolved around basically. People are so close knit, which is needed in games like this, and they have their cliches/groups/statics - they aren't willing to bring more in to the group - this has been my experience thus far at least. Why, because like you said, they don't want to deal with newbs.. which is unfortunate because newbs need to learn the game too. I tried to put a maze group together last night for the Maze connected to Tahrongi(sp) Canyon. It was a group of other new players, but they had had PL"s and wanted to pull only IT++ mobs instead of just Tough+ mobs which were easily downable.

Let me repeat that I do not -want- to go to Dunes. I WANT to get my subjob items taken care of asap though so I can get on with the game. I bought an emperor band last night and got to 17 - today I'll get to 18. I'm in an LS but they rarely ever PT so that's a wash. I don't know where to go to look to find other LS's aside from in game, and that's been a wash too as I simply haven't seen many that actually respond back. The way it looks now, I'll likely end up soloing to 20 as a rdm with no subjob - at what point do the dunes mobs become solable for a character with no subjob?

Regarding friends and community - I've made several friends who have added me to their friends list. They've sent me gil and items and stacks of food to make soloing easier - they don't PT though because they have their own thing going on at 75/xx etc.

[Balfree]

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Careful, from someone else's perspective, you're the one being inflammatory.

People have told you how the game works, and this isn't the first thread you make regarding this issue either.

Dual boxing isn't going to solve your problem because, later on, it won't help you any, so why not endure it now, take it slowly... learn the ropes, do some quests, get some exp while flagging for a PT, make some friends and it'll all spiral upwards eventually.

You're treating FFXI like you treat all those MMOs you've played, and IMO, you shouldn't.

Best of luck.

[KoukiRyu]

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This happens, fairly often at lower levels. If you don't want to go to the dunes, you're going to have even more trouble grouping, seeing as anyone that does party, almost always parties in the Dunes. There are those few in Korroloka Tunnel, but that's pretty rare as it is. I have two friends who just started the game, and have had their share of troubles. It's been easier cause I've given them advice, helped with subjob/kazham keys, etc. But I haven't pl'd them one level. They partied, solo'd, and made it to 18 on their own, with pick up groups, and making new friends.

They actually got most of their sub job items leveling up, I pretty much just had to get them skulls, as it were. Honestly, just keep seeking and solo'ing. Eventually, there will be someone leveling a lowbie job, for whatever reason. You can't give up on the game, cause you just haven't gotten deep enough in yet. Make it to 30, unlock a few jobs, try those, and if you still aren't liking it, that's a good time to call it quits.