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  • #16
    Re: account stolen can you guys help me

    The account that was stolen the second time, I did not Did not even change the password from the one they gave me to get it back. No software I ran could find find any bad programs or key loggers. I did not run other software to play the game. And NO other games, bank or information was taken but the FFXI accounts. It was as if the thief came from the server.
    I had played for years with no problems then after the first of the year bam. I even began to think FFXI employees were doing it I became so paranoid. Once this happens to you you may then understand. You put years into a game and watch it all disappear.
    Others have lost real money for they spent money to get their items back. I refused to buy my stuff back using guild sellers. And FFXI could easily catch the people doing this if they really wanted to. They probably make money selling guild.
    As for listing the attorney here they would just get spammed for you can see some reactions to this is not friendly.
    Thank you for your concern and for ANY NICE comments. My son is 26 and we stay in touch using games as I am at home and disabled. My son said 'let it go we can play another game.' I use to be a system annalist thus I do have programs to protect my pc. We did move on we play WARhammer, WOW, guildwars and he likes COH.
    I did give all the information to a large law firm I was hoping they would make the gaming industry more user friendly. The law firm will be the only ones to get rich I think as they have seen ways to file several complaints which a few bucks per player can mount up. I was not suing to get rich, I was not raised to sue for fun and try to get something for nothing. I was upset with the way they treated me. I was put on hold for over five hours on the phone. Only to be told later they did not give me all my options.
    You can have one character roll back and one data rollback.
    One last thing how would you like loosing the name you used for years. They change one characters name and I could not get it back.
    Last edited by mira; 09-27-2008, 07:41 PM.

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    • #17
      Re: account stolen can you guys help me

      Wait if it was your sons char that was stolen. Then really your computer being a fortress wouldn't matter. Not to mention you may not visit sites or what not, but maybe he did and just doesn't want to fess up. Maybe he used the char on another pc that had a logger.

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      • #18
        Re: account stolen can you guys help me

        Originally posted by mira View Post
        The account that was stolen the second time, I did not Did not even change the password from the one they gave me to get it back. No software I ran could find find any bad programs or key loggers. I did not run other software to play the game. And NO other games, bank or information was taken but the FFXI accounts.

        ...I use to be a system annalist thus I do have programs to protect my pc....
        Then you should also know that the only way to be 100% sure that you are safe is to reformat yours or your son's hard drive. Because you chose to go the easy route and not do that, you expect SE to make up for your/his shortcomings. They were good enough to do it once but a second time, I don't think so, thats your/his responsibility. And now because you/he screwed up and didn't protect yourself/himself correctly, you/he feel like pushing that responsibility onto someone else with a frivolous lawsuit (if there even is one).


        Originally posted by mira View Post
        Once this happens to you you may then understand. You put years into a game and watch it all disappear.
        Others have lost real money for they spent money to get their items back. I refused to buy my stuff back using guild sellers. And FFXI could easily catch the people doing this if they really wanted to. They probably make money selling guild.
        As for listing the attorney here they would just get spammed for you can see some reactions to this is not friendly.
        I've played many MMO's in my time and I've had things "stolen" before, once even my entire account that I had been playing for 6 years. I do know what its like, but I also know when I'm at fault too. If I refuse to take the measure of reformatting my hard drive in order to assure there isn't a program on my hard drive that could cause me to lose my character again, then that is MY fault and not anyone elses.

        As to your attorney's name, address, and phone number, thats why we have a PM system on this forum. People who are interested in getting in touch with your lawyer to join the lawsuit can PM you and get the information. Why should they trust YOU with their phone number if you don't trust them with your lawyers information?

        Considering some of the scams of gil sellers, this could just be another one. Give them your phone number, they call to get your other information to give to the lawyer which could include your account information....and yes some people would give it up. (yes gil and not guild, for a system anaylist <yes its not spelled annalist, thats something else ENTIRELY> which would mean your an educated person your spelling reminds me of a gil seller)


        Originally posted by mira View Post
        One last thing how would you like loosing the name you used for years. They change one characters name and I could not get it back.
        While I wouldn't be happy about it, I wouldn't whine about it either. To say that they should make the person that made a new character with that name change it isn't fair to that person either. You want to do to that person what the gil seller that stole your account did to you, thats pretty darn immature for a woman that is supposedly around 40 years old. Your friends list is still there and you can message all the people on it and let them know what happened and go on just fine.

        Originally posted by mira View Post
        As for listing the attorney here they would just get spammed for you can see some reactions to this is not friendly.
        Thank you for your concern and for ANY NICE comments.
        So you just expected everyone to go "OMG you poor thing! Those mean mean people!"? Welcome to real life. When you talk to a mixed group of people, everyone might have a different opinion. Some may agree with you and some may not, thats life. A mature adult will take what others say and look at their opinions objectively because they could possibly learn something from them.
        Originally posted by Feba
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        • #19
          Re: account stolen can you guys help me

          My spelling is part of my problem after I had a tumor taken from my spinal column. The tumor had nerves wrapped around it, sorry that it offends you.
          So now you can ask why not spell checker and what ever I don't think to answer. Spell checker does not catch everything i guess.

          And the PCs were checked out by a friend who found no problems. The friend works on and sells PCs after he fixes them up to customer specks.

          Some have already sent me their information I sent it to the lawyers who will contact them first email and then phone if it looks like they can be added to the lawsuit. I am sure these people will let you know if I have stolen their account by getting their information, duh. The attorneys does not even get their account info. They ask me questions about the game but never needed my account number, my bank number etc etc etc.

          I still think it odd that no key logger was found. I think FFXI has employees that are doing it.

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          • #20
            Re: account stolen can you guys help me

            I still think it odd that no key logger was found. I think FFXI has employees that are doing it.
            The fact that it wasn't found doesn't mean it wasn't there. I'm pretty sure there's no way for someone to just magically take over your account. The fact that you were hacked meant they got your POL ID and password somehow, and that means someway or another, malicious software got on your system. Knowing that, you should've reformatted.

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            • #21
              Re: account stolen can you guys help me

              It's easier to blame someone else.
              Originally posted by Feba
              But I mean I do not mind a good looking man so long as I do not have to view his penis.
              Originally posted by Taskmage
              God I hate my periods. You think passing a clot through a vagina is bad? Try it with a penis.
              Originally posted by DakAttack
              ...I'm shitting dicks out of my eyeballs in excitement for the next bestgreating game of all time ever.

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              • #22
                Re: account stolen can you guys help me

                We reformatted the PCs, I thought I had said that, sorry not to. The friend did that when he checked the PCs with his software right after the first and before the second account stolen. He said if you play with your web browser open a keylogger can run but not stay on your pC. That is why he installed Fox fire with no script and some other plugins.
                The last account was stolen but not the other two again. That account by the way had the lucky number where you won from the moogle game. The account was stolen before I could get the prize and taken back before the thief could get it because of game deadlines. The password was still the one FFXI gave me to get the account back as I thought it was safe. The last account stolen was stolen after all that. That is why I think a dishonest employee is the only one who could get ID and password.
                You can not get much safer than foxfire plugins. They even have one that warns you of bad websites. And block programs from running within the website or plulling you to another site.
                They arrest people every day for doing dishonest things within companies. I think they have a dishonest employee.
                Last edited by mira; 09-30-2008, 06:47 AM.

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                • #23
                  Re: account stolen can you guys help me

                  mira, does your son login on the guest account of another computer? ie: he goes over a friends house, logs in under guest (prompting him to enter his acct info)

                  possibly not a problem on your end?
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                  • #24
                    Re: account stolen can you guys help me

                    Originally posted by mira View Post
                    We reformatted the PCs, I thought I had said that, sorry not to. The friend did that when he checked the PCs with his software right after the first and before the second account stolen. He said if you play with your web browser open a keylogger can run but not stay on your pC. That is why he installed Fox fire with no script and some other plugins.
                    The last account was stolen but not the other two again. That account by the way had the lucky number where you won from the moogle game. The account was stolen before I could get the prize and taken back before the thief could get it because of game deadlines. The password was still the one FFXI gave me to get the account back as I thought it was safe. The last account stolen was stolen after all that. That is why I think a dishonest employee is the only one who could get ID and password.
                    You can not get much safer than foxfire plugins. They even have one that warns you of bad websites. And block programs from running within the website or plulling you to another site.
                    They arrest people every day for doing dishonest things within companies. I think they have a dishonest employee.
                    Why would they steal an account when they can create gil out of thin air?
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                    • #25
                      Re: account stolen can you guys help me

                      Originally posted by mira View Post
                      We reformatted the PCs, I thought I had said that, sorry not to.
                      Ok now suddenly after people have told you its your fault for not reformatting, you suddenly decide you did. Oooookaaaaaaaay.....

                      Originally posted by mira View Post
                      He said if you play with your web browser open a keylogger can run but not stay on your pC.
                      {Huh?}

                      Originally posted by mira View Post
                      I think they have a dishonest employee
                      Originally posted by Susurrus View Post
                      Why would they steal an account when they can create gil out of thin air?
                      Because you can never have enough pretend money! Think of the uber character they could have!! Oh wait....they could just create that too huh....hmmm....what would they accomplish by stealing accounts and other peoples items and gil.....people would get mad...people would quit....they would lose real money.....ya that would be the profitable thing for them to do! Lose customers, lose revenues, when they can just create the gil/items instead of steal them!

                      BE SAFE! NEVER SHARE YOUR REAL LIFE INFO WITH PEOPLE YOU DO NOT KNOW!

                      /em hobbles out of this thread before she has to get on her hip waders on from all the bs being flung...
                      Last edited by TheGrandMom; 09-30-2008, 10:51 AM.
                      Originally posted by Feba
                      But I mean I do not mind a good looking man so long as I do not have to view his penis.
                      Originally posted by Taskmage
                      God I hate my periods. You think passing a clot through a vagina is bad? Try it with a penis.
                      Originally posted by DakAttack
                      ...I'm shitting dicks out of my eyeballs in excitement for the next bestgreating game of all time ever.

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                      • #26
                        Re: account stolen can you guys help me

                        lol @ Annalist.

                        I don't see why you people are arguing why/how/if he was hacked...
                        I mean. He said he was. Who cares why. It happened.
                        Doesn't matter what precautions he says he has gone through with...
                        By the looks of it, you all will just sit here and pick apart what he says for 5+ thread pages...
                        No matter what he says.

                        If he wants to quit, let him. I can't stand playing with people who can't type correctly, anyway(read:regardless of medical condition/s).

                        But, still. The lawsuit thing. You can't sue somebody for assets you can't even claim. Especially when you agreed to the fact that you don't own sh*t that you gain while in-game.

                        Mira. You've been playing for a while. I'm sure you have friends in FFXI. I'm sure you probably know the game like the back of your hand. So. It wouldn't be hard for you to get back to where you once were.

                        Good luck with your lawsuit. lawl.

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                        • #27
                          Re: account stolen can you guys help me

                          Originally posted by Zoryn View Post
                          If he wants to quit, let him. I can't stand playing with people who can't type correctly, anyway(read:regardless of medical condition/s).
                          The Urge to laugh like Yagami Light is becoming too great in this thread.
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                          • #28
                            Re: account stolen can you guys help me

                            Originally posted by Durahansolo View Post
                            The Urge to laugh like Yagami Light is becoming too great in this thread.
                            Couldn't agree more.
                            Originally posted by Feba
                            But I mean I do not mind a good looking man so long as I do not have to view his penis.
                            Originally posted by Taskmage
                            God I hate my periods. You think passing a clot through a vagina is bad? Try it with a penis.
                            Originally posted by DakAttack
                            ...I'm shitting dicks out of my eyeballs in excitement for the next bestgreating game of all time ever.

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                            • #29
                              Re: account stolen can you guys help me

                              I'm refusing to say anymore, as I'll likely blow a gasket and say somethign I would regret.

                              <<curls up into cornner of room with TGm and wonders why people would willingly give their details to a stranger especially after we advised them not to>>

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                              • #30
                                Re: account stolen can you guys help me

                                Originally posted by Jarre View Post
                                I'm refusing to say anymore, as I'll likely blow a gasket and say somethign I would regret.

                                <<curls up into cornner of room with TGm and wonders why people would willingly give their details to a stranger especially after we advised them not to>>
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