1up Super Interviews FFXI's top dog. New avatars/summons coming!!!

[Feba]

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And they said it right in the interview that they can only fit so many things into those description boxes. But seriously, a lot of the AF pieces have useless and downright retarded stats.

From the sounds of it, they aren't talking about description boxes. Most AF don't get anywhere near the largest sizes of those, and even if they did a bonus effect for having all pieces equipped could be simply added without being listed (like Oh-So-Many latents.). If SE wanted to be more open, they could make a note of it in updates on POL and the site.

What is useless and retarded is hard to say without SE's insight and rationale for adding it. In any case, using a few stupid things as the basis for deleting quite a few useful and good ones is even more irrational than pointless stats in the first place.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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and no, BBQ, AF+ 1 is not an excuse.

Your arguement is that AF could use a buff.

AF got buffed, why buff AF again?

Why are you so mystified that RDM has CHR on AF? CHR and INT are modifiers for some dagger weaponskills, that's probably why the CHR is there at least.

4/5ths or RNG AF is useful to 72, 2/5ths of it after
Depending on Race, RDM AF can be useful to high level.
BST AF is great for charming to high level
PLD AF is great pretty much tp 75 and the boots never go anywhere, it seems.

Have you even SEEN what they did to DRG AF with the +1s? It seriously got buffed. So did the BRD AF, I challenge you to find a better hand piece for BRD than AF+1 hands.

A pixie summon that would spontaneously heal and raise your allies would be neat. To make a pact with the pixies, rescue and free 20 trapped pixies, then the Pixie Queen Titania will appear and ask you to destroy some nasty monster that threatens them... which, when you arrive at the battlefield, you discover to be Oberon, under the influence of a demon. (Titania goes with you to help you in the battlefield; she won't attack him, but will heal and help you like normal pixies. This gives Oberon the opportunity to deliver his famous opening line.) Of course, after you defeat him he regains his senses. Once enough people on a server complete this quest, pixies start appearing in the present, because it was the corruption of Oberon that caused their extinction originally.

I could actually see this happening, particularly since Titania has been revealed, yet Oberon isn't there.

Going the "miscellanious" summon route al la Rydia could be interesting.

It would also be need if SMN could summon a Sandworm to do X-Zone, give SMN some means of crowd control ability by using X-Zone to breifly "banish" a mob to another realm like Sandworms currently use Doomvoid to Warp players to special BC fights.

These could be quickly cast kinds of summons that just pop out, do thier thing and go back rather than stay out and melee, eliminating perputation cost issues for the new ones. Sandworm pops out of the ground, does X-Zone, and poof, a mob briefly goes away. Maybe the mob got beat up a little in X-Zone while he was there. Titania pops out for a big cure, maybe a round of Protect IV or V on the party.

[Feba]

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Your arguement is that AF could use a buff.

Out of curiosity, BBQ, what do you think of the idea that there should be benefits for wearing the entire set?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Out of curiosity, BBQ, what do you think of the idea that there should be benefits for wearing the entire set?

Given that this game allows for a lot of gear swapping, I don't think much of the idea because these "full set" bonuses rarely - if ever - come into play. Even with 3/5s of the Cobra Unit set on, I've yet to see a Counter proc for wearing it (and the bonuses are incremental on WotG set bonuses).

Put it this way, in level 45 Iron Ram Gear, If I just have the gloves on, I get nothing. But if I put the hands and the feet together, I get +1 Attack out of the set. I wear the full set, I get +4 Attack.

Pardon me while I try to contain my excitement.

A PLD isn't going to use any Amir and of the Iron Ram level 68 so far, they would never touch the feet because of what the AF feet presently offer. They would get some, but not all of what the set bonus offers.

If AF sets got the incremental WotG-styled buff (perhaps like Magic Accuracy for RDM set), then it might be more viable, but I have a feeling it would be lowballed like the present bonuses are.

What I would like to see AF do more than get a set bonus is the hidden ability to trancend level caps.

[Malacite]

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AF+1 is not a buff, especially since you can't use it for things like 60 caps. While I'm at it, Relic +1 is a joke by comparison.


I'd rather see the original AF's get toned down stats of the +1's and give both versions a set bonus for wearing the whole thing. Why can't they be stylish and practical?

Again I point to the chaos set. The Chaos +1 is everything the NQ should have been.

[Akashimo]

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Thf af pants + 1. Never gonna get it cause of the loss of shield skill + 10 >_>; impractical for me.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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AF+1 is not a buff, especially since you can't use it for things like 60 caps. While I'm at it, Relic +1 is a joke by comparison.


I'd rather see the original AF's get toned down stats of the +1's and give both versions a set bonus for wearing the whole thing. Why can't they be stylish and practical?

Again I point to the chaos set. The Chaos +1 is everything the NQ should have been.

You say AF+1 is not a buff, but then you say the +1 is everything the NQ version should have been.

Either that is a buff or its not a buff, please make up your damn mind. It is CLEARLY a buff.

[MrMageo]

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You would rather see AF get toned down to get a set bonus that they would never receive anyhow??

I dont understand by how much more practical some peices of AF can be from peices I know

Warlock Chapeau, Fast Cast, Elemental Skill, INT+3
Warlock Tabard +15 enfeebling magic, -10% interupt, +CHR
Warlock Tights +10 Healing/+15 enhancing skill, +3 MND

Id love to see what you can remove from those or add to them to make them more practical. Let alone an entire set bonus when I wear 1 peice at a time.
They are level 50-60 gear, they are great at those levels and situationally great at higher levels.

Tell the melee who slip into Hauby /+1 and never look back (unless SAM/NIN/MNK).

AF is just fine how it is, if it was made any better what would be my drive to get endgame gears such as yigit/goliard/morigans/zenith/crimson.

Your just grasping at straws, I think there are maybe 2 jobs that would receive a set bonus from using their AF and thats a long shot, but Id say RNG and SCH are the most likely to stay in 3-5 peices most often.

You can count out any other melee, any decent BLM, any decent RDM, any decent WHM from receiving a bonus due to the fact all of those jobs wear 1-2 peices at most at one time.

[LadyKiKi]

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Thf af pants + 1. Never gonna get it cause of the loss of shield skill + 10 >_>; impractical for me.

nah you upgrade it then request the old one! Situational!

Mageo: You're speaking from the RDM's point of view only.

Check out SMN. It's all useless, more or less.

[Akashimo]

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Situational!

I spend most of my time on thf with Tatami shield on >_>;
thf/war meripo, thf pulling dynamis(intimidate the crows!), then situational stuff, like farming, charby.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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RNGs stop wearing the AF body around 72 because Paluwhan does the same with +10 Accuracy and crit bonus, not to mention Osode is pretty affordable these days depending on your server.

AF hands would always have a place for Shadowbind, AF+1 hands get a place for Barrage as well.

AF legs have +5 MND, so they're a fixture in just about any RNG's MND build.

AF Hat and feet fall the the wayside and never really get used again when things like O-Hat, Rutter Sabatons or RSE can go to a Strength build. Or even the War Boots for Attack.

For SCH, we don't have much of a reason to get out of the Scholar's Gown or Pants. They're just too damn good for what they do given that when a particular Arts is activated, you get a +15 skill boost to all categories in their respective Arts. A SCH could aspire to have Ixion's Cloak for Body when they're in Light Art, but that's all at this point. Leg armor for Dark Arts there's Errant, Jet Sereweels, the Cobra Unit Pants and Yigit. Scholar's Gown is just really hard to displace for Dark Arts, I can't imagine any endgame gear that would beat it.

Head can be replaced by Yigit unless you want to charge sublimation faster. AF Hands are suitable for light Arts, beaten by Vicious Mufflers for Dark Arts. The new Cobra Unit feet win for nuking, Goliard feet win for enfeebling.

[Ojofer]

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I've found myself using WHM in merit parties as whm/nin with all my super DD gears and I do pretty well with it, RDM has to be the main healer with a COR or RNG pulling, believe it or not, I never had to stop for MP and having a ninja as tank, killing up birds made me enjoy being a whm again. Did about 15 or 18k exp in about an hour, and it was the most fun I had as a dd whm. It all depends on how well the other people in the party are willing to play.

I'm actually sick of people who just make the game seem like "it has to be this way"... another thing might be the fact that I'm a bad ass whinja! hahahaha

[MrMageo]

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hmmm wrong thread mayhaps....

Ya I know Im speaking as a RDM, and yes SCH gear may suck but unless they loaded it with perp-10 and -15 pact timer would you use it anyway?.

Don't get me wrong though, I wouldnt mind a tweak to some of my gear but hey who wouldnt. But the fact remains the amount of use AF (even good AF like RDM has) gets limited use in situational areas.

When I meripo, its Vermy/ and Errant Pants not a single peice of AF gets equiped.

If SE suddenly said no more gear changing on the fly or you will become unable to act for 30's like in PVP, then I would be on the wagon for an AF tweak, until then like the other 19 classes in this game, I will mix and match and at times, not even wear any of that glorious red mage AF.

[little ninja]

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I don't care about making Jubak Ni stronger. Just make the speed of which its cast and recast like the other Ni spells. An why not give us Dok: NI? It be like poison 2 of the rdm, blm and drk. Its not job breaking or game breaking.

Kinda funny the Lead man on the game says Nin is a fine tank. An that we need to rely on the party and other jobs to help us out. That right there cracks me up...

[MrMageo]

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well I think its pretty kind of him to consider the raping of the job the way he did. NIN is clearly not meant to be a tank, it has no hate control abilities of its own, now it can be used as one but it needs all the additional help. If anything needs an update its nin, bring on the frontline elementalist.