Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

[Jarre]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

There were 4 ways of dealing with it that the government are considering.

1. Up the limit to be able to buy alcahol to 21
2. Amend the law to include tougher penalties to people who are violent or cause a disturbance when under the influence of drugs/alcahol.
3. Raise the cost by 2 fold of alcahol as a starter.
4. Ban supermarkets from selling alcahol to prevent the culture of drinking lot before going out

were still waiting on which one is going to be pushed to the houae of Lords for discussion.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

Raise the cost by 2 fold of alcahol as a starter.

Do you really mean two-fold, or do you just mean double it?

Ban supermarkets from selling alcahol to prevent the culture of drinking lot before going out

We tried that already. It doesn't work so well.

[Feba]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

There were 4 ways of dealing with it that the government are considering.

#2 is the best option; but really, if your current laws don't keep people from causing trouble, more penalties aren't going to help.

[Ameroth]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

Many of you will be jealous that we have a drinking age here in teh Uk of 18, but I am hoping they will raise it to 21. Their is too much drunk related violence going on now and most cities at night are no go zones due to drunk people randomly starting on you.

Because like we all know, kids never have even a sip of beer until they are legally allowed to do so. I mean, we can't legally drink here until 21 years of age, so how could kids under 21 possible cause problems?

Hell, let's just up the drinking age to around 60 or so when people start getting too tired and old to drink anyway. That should completely eliminate the drinking "problems".

[Kasandaro]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

There were 4 ways of dealing with it that the government are considering.

1. Up the limit to be able to buy alcahol to 21
2. Amend the law to include tougher penalties to people who are violent or cause a disturbance when under the influence of drugs/alcahol.
3. Raise the cost by 2 fold of alcahol as a starter.
4. Ban supermarkets from selling alcahol to prevent the culture of drinking lot before going out

were still waiting on which one is going to be pushed to the houae of Lords for discussion.

Hate to break it to ya, Jarre, but down here in Texas:

1. purchase/consumption age = 21? Check.
2. increased punishment for crime under the influence? Check.
3. Cost? well, no...
4. Purchase ban? Depends on where you are - can only buy beer and wine in supermarkets where I'm at...
5. Continued immaturity and irresponsibility? Check.

Restricting alcohol causes as many problems as easy access does--cf. the American Prohibition.

[Akashimo]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

American Prohibition.

Not to be insulting to a group, but, its a good reason why a group of people shouldn't vote. Don't get it, learn history.

1. Anyways, I know some states allow the consumption by under 21 if its given by a parent/guardian, so theres that.
2. Just because its a higher punishment, doesn't mean the stupid ones will use good judgment(lack there of) to don't do stupid things.
3. Cost, right, that'll just mean more people might turn to moonshine.
4. There's spirits and beer shops around PA and VA, though VA is the only state I've ever seen that has alcohol in super markets.

[Ameroth]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

There's spirits and beer shops around PA and VA, though VA is the only state I've ever seen that has alcohol in super markets.

Lots of supermarkets carry alcohol.

[Feba]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

I've actually never been to a supermarket that didn't carry alcohol, at least not one where I was in the beverage section.

[Jarre]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

The problem in teh Uk is supermarket sell alcahol vry cheaply. you can buy a litre of vodka for £6.99 ($13) You can get a 24 pack of bear in 500ml cans for £10 ($19) and sometimes they do 2 packs of 24 for £15.

Because the cost of alcahol in bars and pubs due to tax is expensive, people buy cheap from teh supermarket, get tanked up at home then go out, so 75% of punters are pissed before they go in the clubs and bars.

On top of the 4 points lsited in my previous post, they are also looking at decreasing the amoutn of alcahol consumption to 1 unit for drink driving, meaning 1 small glass of wine or half a litre of beer. Personally I would like to see a no tolerance full ban.

As a nation we are prceived as a bunch of rowdy piss heads, and I happen to ahev toa gree with them. We tend to binge drink rather than drink slowly with food like they do on the continent. And the cases of liver disease has increased by 4 fold over the last 10 years and the amoutn of teenagers now having to ahve their stomaches pumped etc. has increased by 500% over the same time period.

Tougher laws need to be put in palce to people who buy alcahol for underage and also for those that sell it. although it is heavily critisized for cost and supposed ovasion of privacy, I support the notion for every person over the age of 11 to have a national identity card and be compulsory to ask for ID from anyone (no matter what their age is) to sell alcahol to them.

anyhows, I will rant more later s I have a seminar to go to now....

[Akashimo]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

Were you drinking while typing this rant? =p

[Kafeen]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

Yes, because as we all know, 21 year olds never do anything stupid and are so much more intelligent and responsible.

Other countries that have the legal drinking age at 18 don't have the level of drunken idiot problems that the UK has. Upping it won't change anything.

Alot of those causing the problems are under 18 anyway. Increasing the age limit on alcohol would just mean they'd be more underage than they already are.

Same goes for cigerettes, they increased the age smoking to 18 recently, I still get girls who look 14 asking me for a light.

[Feba]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

As a nation we are prceived as rapidly approaching 1984, and I happen to ahev toa gree with them.

Fixed.

Freedom is Slavery!

[TheGrandMom]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

The problem in teh Uk is supermarket sell alcahol vry cheaply. you can buy a litre of vodka for £6.99 ($13) You can get a 24 pack of bear in 500ml cans for £10 ($19) and sometimes they do 2 packs of 24 for £15.

Because the cost of alcahol in bars and pubs due to tax is expensive, people buy cheap from teh supermarket, get tanked up at home then go out, so 75% of punters are pissed before they go in the clubs and bars.

In my area, we are known for having a bar on nearly every street corner. I remember my brother-in-law saying he would be visiting often because if he tried to go to every bar in our metro area and drink 2 drinks in each bar, he'd be at it for quite a few years and he was up for the challenge. LOL We have the highest brandy consumption and we used to have the most breweries, Pabst, Schlitz, Blatz, Miller, etc. We also have a very large ethnic diversity in our metro area, a high concentration of German and Polish to start with and then British, Swedish, Irish, African, Latino, Norwegian, Asian, Scandinavian, etc. (Swedish, Norwegian,Scandinavian are more in the western area of our state but there are still significant numbers in the metro areas.) In the summer we have huge ethnic festivals at the lakefront to celebrate our diversity as a city.

We have the same issues here Jarre with people being pissed before even entering the bar and the laws are far too lax also. Our supermarkets sell cheap alcohol, so cheap that its no wonder people get drunk before leaving the house. Many parents here have the attitude that their kids can have drinking parties at their home because at least they know where they are and that they are safe. After a few deaths related to these parties, parents are now being held responsible for all of the children that they knowingly let drink in their home. Good law? Nope, because the parents just deny it and the kids lie. People just don't get it.

Prom and graduation time is when the rational adults in our area hold their breath and pray. Every year without fail we have a couple of cars full of drunken kids crashing and killing everyone, including innocent people in other vehicles. Yet there is an outcry every time a law gets passed or adjusted to help protect our children and others from situations like these. I think it would be wonderful to have parents/kids ride along in rescue units in the wee hours of the morning and see the crashes that take innocent lives and the horror of it all. Maybe that would pound some common sense into them.

Right now it takes more than 5 drunken driving tickets before its more than a slap on the hand. So basically if you get a ticket, they make you take some classes, pay a fine, and you are good to go. There is talk of raising it to 3 times and then you'll see a jail cell but the outcry is so huge that its unlikely that it will happen. People feel they have a right to get drunk and kill other people or damage other people's property.

[Jarre]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

Were you drinking while typing this rant? =p

Nope just handn't finished my first pint of tea for the day...

[DakAttack]

Re: Get drunk. With Final Fantasy!

If you don't want kids drinking, then stop letting people have kids.

Problem fixed.