What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

[Feba]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I can't find a thread, and it would've been awhile ago.

So, what will you do?

[Murphie]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

There isn't an option for what I'd do.

I'd try the new game, and if I like it more, play it. If not, I wouldn't, and if I like it equally well I'd play both.

[Feba]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

That falls into 'depends on what is changed'; as in if the changes make it more or less fun.

[Murphie]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

Ok, whatever you say.

[Telera]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

Depends on what's changed. If it's just another variation on the same formula, I won't even try the beta.

[Feba]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

Ok, whatever you say.

You of all people should know my mind works in odd ways.

If it's just another variation on the same formula, I won't even try the beta.

That's interesting; why not? I think a lot of people would like to see FFXI2 as basically FFXI with revamped graphics, and a few other upgrades (like, killing off the concept of 'zoning'.) ; I suppose it relates to why you quit?

[Telera]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

I think you've seen me beat that horse enough to know the answers, Feba.

And to prevent massive derailing of your thread by people who can never pass up a post I make in that vein without going into the defensive, I will leave it at that.

*wanders back to writing a massive rant about the rape of Jacen Solo's character*

[Raydeus]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

If it's just another variation on the same formula, I won't even try the beta.

That's pretty much the definition of what a sequel is...

So, explain in no less than 2000 words what exactly would make it a sequel without being a variation of the same formula.

(Also note that copying and pasting offensive words towards me doesn't count for the 2000 words requiredâ„¢)

So, what will you do?

It really depends on what changes for the better, but specially on what improves without affecting the stuff I still enjoy from the first game.

-Same (or better) storytelling with maybe even cutscenes with Japanese dialog = Good

-Same inventory space problems = Bad

Etc. etc.

[Feba]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

I think you've seen me beat that horse enough to know the answers, Feba.

Not really. I pretty much ignore rants anymore. Almost all of them are uninteresting.

So, explain in no less than 2000 words what exactly would make it a sequel without being a variation of the same formula.

Using the same environment, story, characters, etc.; SE calling it FFXI2; etc.

[Telera]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

But I haven't ranted in ages. :p I'm referring back to your threads about what would bring you back to XI, or what you would like to see changed, in which you actually read and replied intelligently to my posts and then others devolved it into a monkey-shit slinging fest that I soon ignored. I'm sure you can remember my basic selling/get me to return to the game points and you also know there's not a snowball's chance in hell of it ever happening with SE at the helm.

Hell, the 'omg this boi doesn't liek me' topics on Ushi are more interesting by that point.

*still ranting about Jacen. And now Vergere. And the Potentium Heresy.*

[Feba]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

Well, my memory isn't very good either. if it weren't for calendars, I'd be pretty sure it's still March, not to mention the fact that I have basically no childhood.

[Raydeus]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

Using the same environment, story, characters, etc.; SE calling it FFXI2; etc.

Those aren't 2000 words...

Aaaanyway, the elements that would "legitimize" it as a sequel are there. The thing is how do you do it in a way that doesn't rely on upgrades and revampings of the old systems without compromising the basics.

Pretty much all sequels in Final Fantasy history are in one way or the other variations of the same basic formula, (X and it's X-2 sequel are good examples of the SE aproach) and I really don't see anything wrong with that.

But still, if there's a way to do it it could be interesting to watch.

[Feba]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

Those aren't 2000 words...

Alright. Write 2000 word essay on why you're a douche.

Pretty much all sequels in Final Fantasy history

All both of them?

Also, I'd hardly call Revenant Wings 'the same basic formula' as FFXII.

[Telera]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

Well, it all started with the Korriban-Sith-retcon...

Wait, wrong page.

Seriously: essentially for me, (and don't blame me if said usual suspects now show up and rape your thread) its the un-casual-friendly approach. That boils most of my major problems down into a nutshell.

The story to XI is excellent. The jobs are fun to play. The zones are almost all beautiful, or at least nice to look at in some way. Music is great.

The super-time-sink mentality and grind is not as great. And if the sequel were to carry on the 6+ hours to ding/ridiculous economy set up that killed the experience for me the first time, why would I bother to even pick it up knowing it would be the exact same timesink with prettier pictures? That'd be like sticking w/ SWG after the NGE just because I wanted my Jedi Wedding. Which I didn't do, for obvious reasons. Pretty pictures and good RP might go a long way to making a good game more fun but for something I already don't enjoy, it isn't enough to entice me back. Using the same formula (by which I meant in the leveling, largely, and the NM pops and gear grind, Raydeus) that already drove me to cancellation once is probably not a good way for SE to get me to try their next game. And I wouldn't. Because I don't see the point in wasting my time on something I know I'll hate in less than a year, if not right off the bat having already 'been there, done that' once with XI.

[Raydeus]

Re: What will you do when/if FFXI2 comes out?

Alright. Write 2000 word essay on why you're a douche.

That's the spirit!

All both of them?

Also, I'd hardly call Revenant Wings 'the same basic formula' as FFXII.

I don't think spin offs count as sequels though. But even all FF games while not technically sequels still share a common basic formula so to speak. So I think SE would take the X / X-2 approach if they ever made an XI sequel.