The issues with FFXI that we don't often discuss

[Yellow Mage]

Re: The issues with FFXI that we don't often discuss

By the way, I would like to point out that S-E must be in favor of equipment swapping, otherwise they wouldn't have made Hecatomb gear, which has probably been around for as long as Sky itself, so blatantly horrible for full-time wear.

Or, just like most other things, the developer's intentions were distorted in to ow it is used today. Imagine the following hypothetical process of thought:

"Oh, since these pieces are powerful Abjuration gear, people wouldn't mind the penalty. I mean, there's Haste bonuses players can cancel it out with, anyway, right?"

Enter the playerbase. Exeunt any possibility of the aforementioned thought process happening.
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Versatile.

How the fuck can I be versatile if I don't maximize all of my capabilities?

/facepalm

That means a MND set, an INT set, a healing set, a hMP set, even a nuking set and a tanking set. Inventory? Yeah it's almost always close to full but damn it you don't see me getting resists constantly because I gear myself as best as I can.

I had already said that resists were a problem and need to be dealt with, particularly post-51, apparently. Your post really only furthers that point.

[Murphie]

Re: The issues with FFXI that we don't often discuss

Wut?

And what does what the developers might hypothetically have been thinking have to do with anything? They aren't the ones playing the game.

You're saying that the game should be dumbed down so that people don't have to buy gear?

[Yellow Mage]

Re: The issues with FFXI that we don't often discuss

That was in response to Armando's equally likely conjecture of Hecatomb as an "approval" of gear-swapping.

If gear swapping were really "approved" of, TP wouldn't be reset whenever Weapons OR the recent Grips got swapped. Let me go dig up that thing about Grips for a bit . . .

EDIT: {Found it!}

A word on grips

While not designed to bring about radical improvements, grips are a new lineup of items which can be used in tandem with two-handed weapons as a means of wielding them more effectively. They accomplish this by enhancing a weapon's benefits while compensating for shortcomings. Grips will not be limited to offensive weapons, as some will be tailored to mages and their indispensable staves.
Different grips will allow players to adapt to specific situations depending on the type of two-handed weapon they are using, as well as the type of enemy they are fighting. Players should be advised, however, that changing grips mid-combat will result in a loss of TP. Therefore, no grip's benefits will be restricted to the execution of weapon skills.

Source.

It really sounds like that S-E really learned from past items like the Hecatomb set when releasing these things, and while they are, indeed, admittedly minor, I wouldn't be surprised if S-E were willing to do something like this all over again on a more major scale.

[Armando]

Re: The issues with FFXI that we don't often discuss

Yellow Mage: The thing is, the Slow outweighs the STR and DEX. Using Hecatomb would hurt your damage more than wearing nothing at all in that slot. To imply that they meant for it to be equipped full time is to imply that they have no understanding of the stats they put on gear.

[Caspian]

Re: The issues with FFXI that we don't often discuss

but YM, everyone is saying resists really aren't that bad if you use gear swaps and use ele staves.

[Murphie]

Re: The issues with FFXI that we don't often discuss

But he's saying that you shouldn't have to use gear swaps and elemental staves to avoid resists. Or something.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: The issues with FFXI that we don't often discuss

if

Implies conditional, meaning it becomes a requirement for your observed result.

The fact that it's needed in order to just see some results is pretty sad. To resort to using all that should be overkill.

[Caspian]

Re: The issues with FFXI that we don't often discuss

how do you figure, sports fan?
gear swaps are part of the game. are you suggesting SE put in the macros for gear swaps just to make your life a little easier when you changed jobs?

[Murphie]

Re: The issues with FFXI that we don't often discuss

No, it's the way the game works. If gear was inconsequential, this game would get real boring, real fast.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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No, I'm not - I understand very well how you can be too lazy to make a macro set for PvP. I just don't see how you'd have to "waste a ton of time" to get it done. >_>

If I don't write the new macro set, then I have to do two things:

1. Put a huge amount of R/E gear away in my MH
2. Put non-R/E in my bazaar for max gil.

Both lead to macro error messages in the log

Then I have the option of just writing another macro set specifically for PvP. If you're a MNK, that's not really a problem, but RDM or anything with frequent spells or abilities, you're writing a more extensive list of macros - hence me complaining about the hassle of having to do so - I tend to play jobs that thrive on versatility, but then, penalizing RNG for an ammo swap is fucking bullshit any way you cut it.

SE could just slap all players with a status that prevents the equipping of gear - hell, that's already in the game in Salvage. Use that. SE could also actually try for a reward system in PvP that was actually worth a damn. There's no good gear to get for this except stuff that just facillitates more Ballista. That's nice and all, but rewards that could be used elsewhere would be nice and it would make more players want to PvP if the rewards were that good.

[Yellow Mage]

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No, it's the way the game works. If gear was inconsequential, this game would get real boring, real fast.

I don't know which game you're playing, but FFXI disagrees. This game will be fun no matter what kind of frilly mechanic gets removed.

I mean, it's not like the entire game lies within the act of gear-swapping itself: might as well call it "Barbie Fantasy 11" in that case.

[Brielle]

Re: The issues with FFXI that we don't often discuss

"Barbie Fantasy 11"

I would buy that..

[Murphie]

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Gear is not a FRILLY MECHANIC. I mean, Jesus.

Is today the day you decided that you were going to really make it clear just how little you understand about the game?

[Caspian]

Re: The issues with FFXI that we don't often discuss

He said if gear was inconsequential it would make the game boring...and he's right. Whats the point of killing much of anything once you hit 75 if you have not chance of bettering your own character or that of one of your friends?

[Yellow Mage]

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You think I'm crazy, you should see yourselves: you say that resists are okay because we have gear-swaps, and then you say gear-swaps are life-vital because of resists!

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