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Re: What MMO do you think FFXI could learn the most from, and why?
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Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten
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Feba, pointing out a typo as a means of discrediting someone is the most base and immature thing one can do. And, as no surprise to anyone you start flaming when we don't address the subject of your topic.
Way to "keep it positive."
Look, you don't play FFXI, if I've misunderstood recent events and you are playing it again, you still have a feeble grasp of the game itself aside from EXP trends, which are an everyday discussion.
SE has been on a rather proactive trend with updates since October 2006 and each new update and expansion has been more progressive than the last. That doesn't come from looking at what other MMOs do and copying it, but looking at the user's criticisms and balancing new designs with or against it.
People have complained there aren't enough EXP quests, now we have weekly/daily ones you can do to get EXP and merits. People complained about a lack of MP endurance for non-RDM mages and also soloability for melees, it has been addressed very well.
But you don't look at this, you just look at the complaints and what other MMOs do to fix the problem. The answer for other MMOs is to make the game dumb as bricks to start with. FFXI came from EQ/Lineage roots, SE can't go back and dumb the whole thing down, because in doing so, they'd alienate people for doing that, too.
I mean, why do you think EQ players disliked EQ2? Because it was trying to ape things WoW did to be more "trendy" but they fucked things like the faction system and the diverse starter cities to do it, removing a lot of the original MMO's flavor in the process. Barbarian from Halas sounds much cooler than Barbarian from Queynos, I'm sorry. Guess if I want that, I'll just stick to the original with the ancient graphics engine since the one with spiffier graphics and voiceover is too dumb to do it.
This is what happens when you don't understand what was good about the game you had.
The handling of the RMT situation in FFXI is also unlike anything I've seen in other MMOs. Some companies still don't do another abou the Chinese Gold Farmer, others go overkill witch hunt on it. SE finds means in and outside of the game to discourage it, sometimes even obseleting things to do it, though not entirely.
Think about to when Assault came out and RMTs were still exploiting the Abjuration market. While not as awesome as abjurations, the more casual player looked at the Assault sets and said "Hey, why bang my head against a wall in sky when I can just do this instead?"
Prices went down on abjurations, Assault, in a way, was responsible for this. It gave players respectable endgame equipment without having to deal with RMTs fucking it up. Then the adjustments to quests, sky and fishing came and the RMTs attempts to manipulate these elements are now getting laughable.
they'll always find something else, they'll always try, but its continuing the be less and less effective the more alternatives SE puts out there.
At the same time, these alternatives don't really obselete Abjurations in the slightest, they're just alternatives and highly respectable ones at that.
Even in this previous update, progress has been made. There will always be problems and people will ALWAYS complain, but you can't deny the progress that has taken place.
I generally ignore people who lack anything of any substance to say. This usually includes Feba. Most of us ignore the content of his topics because his feeble understanding of the game is perpetually apparent.
What praytell, was I "angry" about my original post here? I stated my opinion and it was contrary to the OP, is that a problem? OMG, I didn't addess the OP properly, the world will now spin off its axis and we'll lose all gravitational pull. Earth is doomed.
Seriously, get a grip.
Way to "keep it positive."
Look, you don't play FFXI, if I've misunderstood recent events and you are playing it again, you still have a feeble grasp of the game itself aside from EXP trends, which are an everyday discussion.
SE has been on a rather proactive trend with updates since October 2006 and each new update and expansion has been more progressive than the last. That doesn't come from looking at what other MMOs do and copying it, but looking at the user's criticisms and balancing new designs with or against it.
People have complained there aren't enough EXP quests, now we have weekly/daily ones you can do to get EXP and merits. People complained about a lack of MP endurance for non-RDM mages and also soloability for melees, it has been addressed very well.
But you don't look at this, you just look at the complaints and what other MMOs do to fix the problem. The answer for other MMOs is to make the game dumb as bricks to start with. FFXI came from EQ/Lineage roots, SE can't go back and dumb the whole thing down, because in doing so, they'd alienate people for doing that, too.
I mean, why do you think EQ players disliked EQ2? Because it was trying to ape things WoW did to be more "trendy" but they fucked things like the faction system and the diverse starter cities to do it, removing a lot of the original MMO's flavor in the process. Barbarian from Halas sounds much cooler than Barbarian from Queynos, I'm sorry. Guess if I want that, I'll just stick to the original with the ancient graphics engine since the one with spiffier graphics and voiceover is too dumb to do it.
This is what happens when you don't understand what was good about the game you had.
The handling of the RMT situation in FFXI is also unlike anything I've seen in other MMOs. Some companies still don't do another abou the Chinese Gold Farmer, others go overkill witch hunt on it. SE finds means in and outside of the game to discourage it, sometimes even obseleting things to do it, though not entirely.
Think about to when Assault came out and RMTs were still exploiting the Abjuration market. While not as awesome as abjurations, the more casual player looked at the Assault sets and said "Hey, why bang my head against a wall in sky when I can just do this instead?"
Prices went down on abjurations, Assault, in a way, was responsible for this. It gave players respectable endgame equipment without having to deal with RMTs fucking it up. Then the adjustments to quests, sky and fishing came and the RMTs attempts to manipulate these elements are now getting laughable.
they'll always find something else, they'll always try, but its continuing the be less and less effective the more alternatives SE puts out there.
At the same time, these alternatives don't really obselete Abjurations in the slightest, they're just alternatives and highly respectable ones at that.
Even in this previous update, progress has been made. There will always be problems and people will ALWAYS complain, but you can't deny the progress that has taken place.
I generally ignore people who lack anything of any substance to say. This usually includes Feba. Most of us ignore the content of his topics because his feeble understanding of the game is perpetually apparent.
What praytell, was I "angry" about my original post here? I stated my opinion and it was contrary to the OP, is that a problem? OMG, I didn't addess the OP properly, the world will now spin off its axis and we'll lose all gravitational pull. Earth is doomed.
Seriously, get a grip.
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