Fastest claiming JA?

[Ill Poet]

EDIT: Yea...I made a mistake when typing Shadowbind in the poll and don't know how to fix it. -.-

I have been camping Argus for a few days now and 0/1 on Leech king but i haven't even seen Argus yet. I was wondering what is the fastest way to claim a mob using a job ability or magic? I'm a ranger and i think its "Shadowbind", when using shadowbind the mobs name turns red before my character even starts the animation..

But what do you guys think?

[MrMageo]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

flash/stun are pretty quick

[Amberly]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

animated flourish, steal, and provoke.

[Ameroth]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

Out of the options you gave, I'd vote for Dia. In a practical setting, I have flash and provoke. Flash is my claiming ability of choice because it's fast as hell, and has a longer range than provoke does.

Don't see why at least Provoke isn't in the poll...

[Armando]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

Pretty sure most JAs are instantaneous. There shouldn't be a difference in speed between Shadowbind, Charm, Provoke, Steal, etc. There are, of course, range differences and subs to take into the consideration.

Spells have a half-second casting time and will always be slower.

[Jaice]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

I've always found provoke to be the fastest ability to upset a critter, Dia seems to be a close 2nd

[Ill Poet]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

I don't think alot of you have even seen a RNG using shadowbind to claim a NM before >.>;; I know for a fact thats its faster then provoke.

[Amberly]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

I don't think alot of you have even seen a RNG using shadowbind to claim a NM before >.>;; I know for a fact thats its faster then provoke.

How is you seeing it done b4 make it fact?

<< confussed

[Ameroth]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

Because he said it so it must be a fact. No need for any data to prove your point or anything. Just gotta say it and it becomes fact.

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I don't think alot of you have even seen a RNG using shadowbind to claim a NM before >.>;; I know for a fact thats its faster then provoke.

They are both instantaneous.

[eticket109]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

Angon and Steal are pretty damned fast. Charm and Provoke are typically more useful due to range though. Back when I used to camp Spook (in like '04) I used to always win with Charm vs a non-botter. That could have just been my connection though. There's no real way to test it. There are too many other variables that come in to play.

[Jaice]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

I don't think alot of you have even seen a RNG using shadowbind to claim a NM before >.>;; I know for a fact thats its faster then provoke.

when using shadowbind the mobs name turns red before my character even starts the animation..

What type of system do you have? It could be too graphic intensive to load the animation on your console/pc before the effect goes off. Dont discount unknown options ^_~ Have you ever seen how fast provoke claims a critter?

[eticket109]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

That's common with a lot of abilities though. The claim always procs at the beginning of the animation.

[Ill Poet]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

rofl I have used Provoke before many times and i have used Shadowbind many times...Hmmmmm. Maybe THAT'S how i know its faster. Yup, maybe thats it.

[Caspian]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

Instant is instant. Both provoke and shadowbind have the same cast time (instant) and according to Spider-Dan's tests, have the same range.
However, if you take into account lag and the whole 'being locked out from trying to claim too early', then sometimes a very quick spell can work better than an instant JA.

[nanatsu]

Re: Fastest claiming JA?

rofl I have used Provoke before many times and i have used Shadowbind many times...Hmmmmm. Maybe THAT'S how i know its faster. Yup, maybe thats it.

I've used both Provoke and Shadowbind to claim tons of times on MNK/WAR and RNG. Neither one is faster than the other. You're mistaken.