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  • #76
    Re: Hacked, ,anyone else lately

    Originally posted by Feba View Post
    I don't really see how any method that would allow someone to simply pull account information off SE's server wouldn't be a huge flaw.

    thats the thing, you cant -.- people have seem to forgotten this little bit of info

    you use 3 diffrent servers when you play FFXI

    Login server >> World Server >> AH Server

    and if I am not mistaken each zone is on a different drive on the server.

    It allows for the AH to go down and not take the game with it, and each zone to be taken down alone, without taking the whole server offline.

    AH server has nothing to do with the login server, so that info is safer.
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    • #77
      Re: Hacked, ,anyone else lately

      Originally posted by Kailea View Post
      thats the thing, you cant
      Wasn't the point, as usual, but thanks for playing.
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      Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
      They don't simply pull account information from SE's servers.
      Not the point.

      The point was that, if FFXIAH did somehow pull account information off the servers, that would be a huge gaping flaw in SE's security. I don't really see how you can disagree with that.
      Last edited by Feba; 04-11-2008, 08:27 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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      • #78
        Re: Hacked, ,anyone else lately

        Originally posted by Feba View Post
        Wasn't the point, as usual, but thanks for playing.
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        Not the point.

        The point was that, if FFXIAH did somehow pull account information off the servers, that would be a huge gaping flaw in SE's security. I don't really see how you can disagree with that.

        well yeah it would be, and I would agree, but why agree to something that wont happen anyway, (look at my example above)
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        • #79
          Re: Hacked, ,anyone else lately

          Originally posted by Kailea View Post
          thats the thing, you cant -.- people have seem to forgotten this little bit of info

          you use 3 diffrent servers when you play FFXI

          Login server >> World Server >> AH Server

          and if I am not mistaken each zone is on a different drive on the server.
          Actually, each zone is a server, most likely. To be more precise, each zone of each world is a server. If you move around zone to zone, you end up moving from server to server, so to speak.

          Search and Auction House seem to be linked, so that could be one server per World to service both. Also, some areas, like Assaults, are instanced, so there can be variable number of servers for each of those zones on every World.

          What I'm not sure about is whether there is a particular "server" for a "World" besides the collection of zone servers and AH/search server--which is why I dislike using the term "servers" to refer to "Worlds"--each "World" is a collection of multiple servers, and the number of servers each isn't a constant.


          * * *

          Server := Software, a program (which often can run other programs) which handles requests from clients.
          Host = Hardware, where a server software is running.

          Not much is know about the hosts, except that S-E was very pleased with itself for making people from every region of the Earth use the same set of hosts, so they are utilized 24 hours a day--load balancing by mixing users from different time zones. Very low tech, but relatively efficient, I suppose.

          S-E had a major hardware upgrade to the hosts/cluster system two years back, maybe? I think it was roughly around the time of all the major DDoS attacks. I believe they massively upgraded communication capacities (at least for the AH/search servers/hosts), but not entirely clear about the boxes of hardware.

          Some people have garnered surprising amount of info on the servers by capturing communication between them and the client (that would be the POL/FFXI client), but for the most part they keep the details of what they know to themselves.

          Using that information, they've created things like the very useful FFXIAH, produced those blasted cheats for claiming monsters automatically without getting caught (for now)--and one hacker supposedly found a way to kick people offline in FFXI (until S-E patched the software flaw).
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          • #80
            Re: Hacked, ,anyone else lately

            So, I skipped most of the thread so I have no idea what it was about, but still.

            FFXIAH, a real windower (without plugins), Item database, etc. they are all services SE should be hosting and providing themselves in their own servers, without any 3rd party ads.

            They are just lazy.

            Also, where's DX9?
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            • #81
              Re: Hacked, ,anyone else lately

              Not exactly hacked, but this just happened to my friend.

              Apparently, a long time ago my friend inherited an account from someone who stopped playing. She's since leveled several jobs and is well on her way to G-horn, when she can't access her account anymore.

              Turns out, the person she got the account from's ex called SE and called it stolen. So four+ years worth of work that my friend did on an account that has been in her possession for a really long freaking time has gone to someone who stole it "back" just to spite his ex.

              Talk about a cheap way to get back at someone, and it wasn't even the person he was trying to fuck over.

              I'm so angry at the gall people have to do this kind of crap. It's one thing if your account actually got stolen. But this one didn't. It was given away - might I say again that it was a LONG time ago - and then a petty breakup screwed someone who wasn't involved at all.

              I'm glad SE is trying to give accounts back, but if they looked who's been paying the bill all the time, they'd know whose possession the account was in. Account hackings were not common back when she got the account.

              I think she's going to try to get it back if she can, if not though, she's already working on another character. But who wants to start over from scratch because of some bullshit like this?
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              • #82
                Re: Hacked, ,anyone else lately

                I have never been hacked guess I am lucky, that and I use a hard ass password to get into my account 3 different types of virus protection and anti-hacking software. I also dont keep cookies saved on my PC. I deleted them every time I get off the internet xD.
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                • #83
                  Re: Hacked, ,anyone else lately

                  Originally posted by Bluecat View Post
                  I have never been hacked guess I am lucky, that and I use a hard ass password to get into my account 3 different types of virus protection and anti-hacking software. I also dont keep cookies saved on my PC. I deleted them every time I get off the internet xD.

                  uuummm I hope you don't mean you use 3 different anti-virus softwares.... because thats not a very good idea ;p
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                  • #84
                    Re: Hacked, ,anyone else lately

                    Originally posted by Kailea View Post
                    uuummm I hope you don't mean you use 3 different anti-virus softwares.... because thats not a very good idea ;p
                    no I mean I use Windows Defender (spyware and adware scanner/remover), McAfee (anti virus protection), McAfee siteadvisor (tells you what websites have spyware or adware).
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