Common mobs with odd properties

[Armando]

Re: Common mobs with odd properties

What Taskmage said. As a matter of fact, we've been over this already.

How is it complex to assign a job to a mob and let the formulas take care of the rest? That aside, I NEVER SAID MOB STATS DON'T VARY ACCORDING TO MOB FAMILY. Crabs and Beetles are both PLD/PLD mobs, but Beetles have higher VIT, much like a Galka PLD has higher VIT than an Elvaan PLD.

[Kafeen]

Re: Common mobs with odd properties

Yeah, realised that after posting.

[Armando]

Re: Common mobs with odd properties

First mob of my Boyahda Tree excursion: analyzed

Spiders
Job: WAR/WAR
VIT: E
AGI: D
Notes: Acid Spray = 12 HP/tick
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Hares
Job: WAR/WAR
VIT: D
AGI: D

A very average mob.

Crawlers
Job: WAR/WAR
VIT: C
AGI: E

Confirmed that Crawlers do, in fact, have E-ranked Defense. That makes them fairly squishy, to the point that their Defense is as low, or slightly lower, as their Evasion.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Common mobs with odd properties

I was only able to get data on one more Wyvern. When I tried to get a second one, I got linked on by the Bombs there, so I guess I'll have to bring a ranged weapon to pull instead of using Gravity. :-/

even Matched
318 Attack No Message
316 Attack High Defense

No matter what I did, I couldn't get it's evasion to show anything other than low. I even tried putting on my Errant for -Dex. Anyway. got 100 Exp

And my base stats are 59STR and 66DEX.

I'll try to fight a couple more before tonight ends, but I have to pack for a 1230 bus tomorrow, so it's unlikely.. oh, and since they're only T, getting Evasion will be hard since I use Squid Sushi. Acc doesn't seem to be a problem, so I guess I'll eat Meat.

[Kafeen]

Re: Common mobs with odd properties

I was only able to get data on one more Wyvern. When I tried to get a second one, I got linked on by the Bombs there, so I guess I'll have to bring a ranged weapon to pull instead of using Gravity. :-/

even Matched
318 Attack No Message
316 Attack High Defense

No matter what I did, I couldn't get it's evasion to show anything other than low. I even tried putting on my Errant for -Dex. Anyway. got 100 Exp

(Someone else might have to repeat this since WishMaster3K blocked me)
That may because you're pulling with Gravity which as well as slowing movement speed also reduces evasion. You could also try rechecking after its wore off if you haven't already.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Common mobs with odd properties

I figured blocking you wasn't fitting enough as a punishment since it seems it was a misunderstanding.

I do all my checks before I engage. Gravity is casted at the start of the encounter so that I can sleep it without losing any shadows and I can debuff and buff fully before even fighting. Seems to work best for me, and that's all I can recall from Grendal's method.

I can take them down to at least 2/3 of their life in one Cycle (which is about as long as my buffs last) before I have to sleep them and rebuff myself. I don't cast DoT incase that needs to happen. They're fairly timid. With Barblizzard and Barparalyze, I only have the effects of Dread Shriek for a few seconds, and I can usually cast sleep or something to tide me over until it wears. Either way, my eva on them is fairly decent, so by the time my shadows come off, Paralyze has worn already.

[Armando]

Re: Common mobs with odd properties

I do all my checks before I evade.

Huh? Do you mean before you engage?

Assuming they're WAR/WAR which is most likely the case, so far it looks like they have C VIT.

[Armando]

Re: Common mobs with odd properties

No, I haven't forgotten about this. Just to let you guys know: I'm on hiatus once again.

To be honest I got quite burned out, because traveling, finding mobs, changing gear over and over again until I finally find /check thresholds and figuring out the mob's level, was a very tedious and time-consuming process. What's more, the EXP chart in FFXIclopedia didn't seem to be 100% accurate for low EP mobs, which made me extremely paranoid when trying to make heads or tails of why X mob's Evasion is 1 point off. I don't plan on dropping this (far from it) but I think I checked one mob too many in too short a time period, and I needed a break.

On top of that, my PLD has been sitting at 70 for a while, and it was starting to get to me. Little things, like, "If I were 73 I could use Kinkobo," or "If I were 75 I could solo this." So I figured it was time I got off my ass and started levelling again. Just one problem: my NIN was still 24. So I bit the bullet and levelled NIN these last couple of days Managed to get myself up to 30.

But as of today, classes have started once again, which means I'm at my apartment, with my Internet -1 which doesn't allow me to play FFXI. On top of that, this weekend there's a GGXX: ^Core tournament that I plan on participating in, so I won't be coming back home 'til next weekend. And if I do play next weekend, it'd be for levelling NIN. Basically, you probably won't see any more research this month.

At the very least I did find out a couple of things, even if they're not really that related to the thread.
- Slime's Fluid Toss and Fluid Whirl are NOT water damage, they're physical. Wiki has been corrected.
- Sahagin's Hydro Shot is also not water damage, it's physical. Wiki has been corrected and added the fact that it has long charge-up time.

Also, I looked into that thing about Sneak Attack guaranteeing that your offhand hit lands as well, since it had been bugging me for a while. Turns out it's true, and it works with H2H as well. Explains why MNK/THF was popular 60+ back in '04; SA Dragon Kick not only crits the first hit, but both are guaranteed to land.

[Vyuru]

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Forget parties, go Campaign for exp!

No skillups though... Which really kinda sucks for a tank :/

But it IS pretty good exp if you just want to have fun or can't get a party.

And Armando, words cannot even begin to describe how full of awesome win you are for testing all of this!

We need an orz smilely

We have this: but it doesn't convey the same feeling

[Callisto]

Re: Common mobs with odd properties

Hehe speaking of testing things Armando...

Well, remember how you figured out that Cursed Sphere is dark damage?

I kind of have this theory that Hurricane Wing may be similar, either light or dark, but I don't have either spirit ; ; I was thinking, if you have free time, and y'know, maybe see Fafnir up or something...

Ok, maybe not. But I am going to try and get our WHM to pop out a dark spirit if he has it next time we do Nyzul 40!

[Armando]

Re: Common mobs with odd properties

I'll look into Campaign once I'm back on PLD. I'm eager to try it, I haven't really done too much in WotG since I got it for X-mas yet.

And Armando, words cannot even begin to describe how full of awesome win you are for testing all of this!

We need an orz smilely

We have this: but it doesn't convey the same feeling

Hah, it's no big deal. Someone's gotta be stupid/curious enough to do it, right? In any case, thanks, it's pretty encouraging to hear stuff like that.

Hell, I didn't even do much testing with slimes and sahagins. Just noted that they can miss, and that pretty much makes them non-magical.

@Callisto: Isn't Hurricane Wing that one move that's insanely consistent damage? The one that, for some reason, is directly affected by your Wind resistance?

[LilithAngel]

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Whenever you get a chance Armando, there's one thing that's really been bugging me. It would seem obvious, but I just wanna get a real nail on this thing: Hpemdes.

Now, I know what one might say: "Since it has Dragon Killer, it must be a Dragoon mob." One could easily surmise that, but I want to know for certain. After seeing it intimidate my wyvern many times, I wanna know if it's possible these things could even actually be DRG/DRG mobs.

However long it takes, I'm not worried; I'm in no rush. However, the answer would help me rest easy at night (curiosity keeps me up at times). Thanks.

[Armando]

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I don't have Sea, and something tells me a mob family like that is going to give me a major headache when trying to figure out what they are.

Regardless, if I ever find this out, I'll be sure to post it.

[Vyuru]

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After seeing it intimidate my wyvern many times, I wanna know if it's possible these things could even actually be DRG/DRG mobs.

You've probably already tested this but is it possible that it's a demon type mob?

[Callisto]

Re: Common mobs with odd properties

@Callisto: Isn't Hurricane Wing that one move that's insanely consistent damage? The one that, for some reason, is directly affected by your Wind resistance?

I don't think it does actually, it does have very consistent damage, however my Barspells do +99 resistance as RDM/WHM, and from what I've seen Baraero has done absolute crap against Faffles in Nyzul. I wanted to test it last night, but we got all turtles/behemoth last night.
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Add: Regarding the Dragon Killer, have you tried it vs. other Luminions? They may just happen to have Dragon Killer as a race as well. Maybe Phaubos/Xzomits do as well?