Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

[Ockman]

I bought the PS2 version of the vana'diel collection, like others I'm sure with the intention of installing it on my PS2. All the expansions, and full game for $40. Hell of a deal. HOWEVER, there's a big problem, and it seems me and a fellow on gamefaqs both are having the same problem.

First off, we do have the 60gb model, so it should be compatible. However, a crucial aspect of the installation is not happening, which is causing the game to not realize we have a HDD!

http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...ddinstall.html

First, you're supposed to download the PS2 system data from the PS store. CHECK

Then you install the system data CHECK

After that, you're supposed to boot up the game's disc, and like it shows in the link I posted, it should come up with a screen in the PS3's XMB, saying that the game is compatible with the ps2 HDD function, and it should ask you if you want to create a partition... X_X

This isn't happening with the vana'diel collection 2008. Instead it just boots up the game like a normal PS2 game, and it says that no HDD is installed, and to power down. I dont know what to do, but this sucks soooo bad!! ;_;

[Ameroth]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

PC version?

[Feba]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

Don't count on games to work on a system they weren't made for.

[Dymlos]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

Well first off, nothing personal but why are you playing on the vomit inducing PS2 ver? Getting a PC to play Xi is inexpensive nowadays and if you have a 360, get that instead. Trust me your eyes will thank you. If I ever have to play the PS2 ver for some reason, my eyes want to gouge themselves out to spare the suffer and torture they'd have to go through.

[Ockman]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

Don't count on games to work on a system they weren't made for.

You think the vana'diel collection 2008 was released for any other reason besides to be played on the PS3?? Think about it for a minute, the PS2 version REQUIRES the HDD, prior to this version, and prior to the PS3 release, the only version of FFXI on ps2 available was the one that came packed in with the PS2 HDD, and that wasnt even around for a long time. Each expansion was released on it's own to accomidate the people who did buy the PS2 HDD version, but vana'diel collection were pointless to put out ever before because they knew people couldnt use it with a HDD.

Here they now have the PS3, and it's system update, that DOES work with the game discs of FFXI on ps2 that came along with the HDD. Clearly I think they saw an oppurtunity to sell FFXI to more owners, but because making an all new PS3 version is too much work, they decided to re-release the PS2 version in it's entirity. So even tho this is a ps2 game, they definately released this with the concept that people would be playing on PS3...if you think any different, that's just silly.
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Well first off, nothing personal but why are you playing on the vomit inducing PS2 ver? Getting a PC to play Xi is inexpensive nowadays and if you have a 360, get that instead. Trust me your eyes will thank you. If I ever have to play the PS2 ver for some reason, my eyes want to gouge themselves out to spare the suffer and torture they'd have to go through.

I'm a poor person, I've sold and rebought game systems so many times that it's not even funny. Hence, I don't own the xbox 360 anymore. I kept my PS3, cuz it's more important to me, and I play with my buddy pai pai on it sometimes.

I have a PC version of FFXI, but I'm a console gamer. I use my PC half the time, and do not enjoy using the windower, or sitting on my crappy computer chair while playing FFXI. So just personal preference, i dont play FFXI on my PC. I wanted to get a console version of FFXI again, and I saw the vana'diel collection as an oppurtunity.

I used to own the PS2 version with the HDD, but again, had to sell it, and I did not think it was vomit inducing...in fact, I've seen FFXI on ps3 with upscaling, and it looks much better.

[Malacite]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

It works fine. You have to launch the POL viewer first, and then click install -> Instal Final Fantasy XI


Registering it is a whole other beast of a matter though wtf...

[Feba]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

.if you think any different, that's just silly.

Then why would they not make sure that it will actually work on PS3s, and advertise it as working on them?

Collection is made to give PS2 owners a nice single disk to install and keep around. Maybe give a few of them new keys to make a new account on. If you're expecting it to work on a system it was not made for, when the company has shown no interest in supporting it, you're just being silly.

[Ockman]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

It works fine. You have to launch the POL viewer first, and then click install -> Instal Final Fantasy XI
Registering it is a whole other beast of a matter though wtf...

It doesn't get that far, it just boots up like a normal PS2 game, and says

"No HDD found.

A HDD is required to use the PlayOnline Viewer. You must have at least 1152MB of free disk space to install the PlayOnline Viewer and Tetra Master. Please install a HDD, then restart the PlayOnline Viewer.

Please power down your console now."
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Then why would they not make sure that it will actually work on PS3s, and advertise it as working on them?
Collection is made to give PS2 owners a nice single disk to install and keep around. Maybe give a few of them new keys to make a new account on. If you're expecting it to work on a system it was not made for, when the company has shown no interest in supporting it, you're just being silly.

Because like my topic title says, they screwed up! The original version of FFXI for PS2 that came with the HDD does in fact work, but there's something different about this new version. Some system file that is missing that is causing the PS3 to not realize that this is a HDD compatible title.

[Feba]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

Because like my topic title says, they screwed up!

So it's far more likely that they put in the effort to code FFXI to work on the PS3, but made a mistake and shipped said mistake although there's no way they wouldn't have known that it was there if they wanted FFXI to work on PS3, than it is that they didn't code for PS3 at all?

Yeah. Right.

[Losrase]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

When you install the system data, did it partion about 10GB of space for the HDD? When I install FFXI on the PS3, the system data allocated 10GB for PS2 installable software.

[Ockman]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

So it's far more likely that they put in the effort to code FFXI to work on the PS3, but made a mistake and shipped said mistake although there's no way they wouldn't have known that it was there if they wanted FFXI to work on PS3, than it is that they didn't code for PS3 at all?
Yeah. Right.

Why are you trying to make an argument out of it and defy me? You're trying to say that they released the vana'diel collection 2008 solely for the PS2 owners that already have a PS2 HDD, who in turn would also already own FFXI since it came with it.

One thing I can say, is that the vana'diel collection so far for me was at several gamestops, and they each had multiple copies. This was not the case with the PS2 HDD that came with FFXI. In fact, if I didn't reserve, I dont think I would've gotten it back then.

I'm saying that, the PS2 HDD, and FFXI were not widely sold, and there really aren't a whole lot out there. Why on earth would they release the vana'diel collection to a larger market like that if they were aiming solely at the PS2 HDD owners of the US.

You must be one of those anti-ps3 people, or you wouldn't keep avoiding the topic at hand. Just because you don't like PS3, and think the fact that I want to play it on there is stupid, doesnt mean everyone agrees with you!

Even if you're correct, and square-enix NEVER intended this to be played on PS3 (which I don't believe),this new collection and the problem it's having is going to affect more people that purchase it. I dont think many people who own the PS2 version will buy it, and anyone who does, is going to be one of the console gamers that owns a PS3 now, and would like to have the chance to finally experience FFXI.

Even the gamestop guy who bought it from me, was like "oh yeah, this will work on PS3 just fine", even though I didn't ask him. People out there that KNOW about the PS2 system data download are just going to assume it works fine, like I did.
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When you install the system data, did it partion about 10GB of space for the HDD? When I install FFXI on the PS3, the system data allocated 10GB for PS2 installable software.

No it didn't. I know what you're talking about, because like I've mentioned in previous posts, I have in fact seen FFXI work on PS3. The old discs that came with the PS2 HDD install just fine. When you pop in the POL disc, it asks you if you want to partition 10gb of data aside for it.

That does not happen with this new vana'diel collection which is the problem. I dont know if they can fix this with an updated ps2 system data or what.

[Feba]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

Just because you don't like PS3,

So thinking that games for one thing should work on another makes sense?

Do you also expect your PS3 to play HD-DVDs?

[Ockman]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

So thinking that games for one thing should work on another makes sense?
Do you also expect your PS3 to play HD-DVDs?

Stop trolling, geez. Instead of reading my valid statements, you try to find something you can use to create another argument. PS2 games DO WORK on the 60gb PS3! AND like i've stated many times, i've seen the FFXI work on PS3 as well. The discs that came with the PS2 HDD work the 60gb PS3, plain and simple. Just because a new shipment of the same game comes, do you expect it to not work?

Like say, I have the original black border copy of God of War, or shadow of the collisus, and they both play on PS3 just fine. Isn't it reasonable to assume that the greatest hits versions of those games would work as well?

[Ameroth]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

No. PS3's don't have 100% backwards compatibility. They say so in the manual, online, and probably even on the box. Assuming that every copy of every PS2 game you own will work on PS3 is being naive.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Nooo! They screwed up the PS2 Vana'diel Collection 2008

Well first off, nothing personal but why are you playing on the vomit inducing PS2 ver? Getting a PC to play Xi is inexpensive nowadays and if you have a 360, get that instead. Trust me your eyes will thank you. If I ever have to play the PS2 ver for some reason, my eyes want to gouge themselves out to spare the suffer and torture they'd have to go through.

Its the same graphics at a different resolution than PC. This is a big deal because...?

Oh right, its not.