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  • #16
    Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

    I dont see this much as a nerf More like YAY! BLM are back in action. ^^!
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    • #17
      Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

      Originally posted by Balfree View Post
      I dont see this much as a nerf More like YAY! BLM are back in action. ^^!

      There are two conditions under which BLM will make a return to the exp party:
      1. Start doing enough damage from "at will" nuking to match the melee DDs, in every battle to chain 12. (And, probably break the endgame in the process.)
      2. S-E follows through on its promise to fix SC+MB, so we'd stop seeing this in the parser:
      SAM: 35.1% dmg
      DRK: 31.9% dmg
      PLD: 3.5% dmg
      ...
      Distortion: 0.7% dmg.

      If some brave people start to post SC effect figures that significantly beat out PLDs' damage instead of being a roundoff error, expect people to start talking about Skillchain in party as something more than the butt end of a joke.

      If Skillchain returns, so will the Black Mages.

      Until either of those comes true, I expect the Black Mages to be kicked out of Lesser Colibri parties if not earlier, then mostly solo the rest of the way to Lv.75.
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      • #18
        Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

        Nerf the melees, NERF EM! Explosions rule.
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        • #19
          Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

          It always irks me when people cry that the sky is falling before anyone even has the faintest clue of what got changed. It's like when people thought THF DoT was shit because they hit for small numbers and DRK DoT was fucking awesome because they hit for big numbers.

          Sorry, after 3 or 4 updates I really had to get it off my chest. I'm going to reserve judgment on the actual effects of the updates until I see some numbers backed up by proper testing. I don't even want to imagine what BG is like right now, so don't hold your breath on getting news from me though.

          Three-fitty says two-handers are still better off than before the first two adjustments.

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          • #20
            Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

            Originally posted by Armando View Post
            It always irks me when people cry that the sky is falling before anyone even has the faintest clue of what got changed. It's like when people thought THF DoT was shit because they hit for small numbers and DRK DoT was fucking awesome because they hit for big numbers.
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            • #21
              Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

              Frankly, until they do something with blm that makes them get invites again, I'm going to laugh in the face of every melee who cries nerf. Having to solo to 75, and having melee coming in and stealing soloing spots (I'm looking at you the retards who party on puddings, go on, fuck off back to the Mire) tends to sour your point of view.


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              • #22
                Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

                Originally posted by Kirsteena View Post
                Frankly, until they do something with blm that makes them get invites again, I'm going to laugh in the face of every melee who cries nerf. Having to solo to 75, and having melee coming in and stealing soloing spots (I'm looking at you the retards who party on puddings, go on, fuck off back to the Mire) tends to sour your point of view.
                Word.

                I used to manaburn, because thats the only parties I got invited to, not because I wanted to. And I wanted my merits FGS.

                So cry me a river you 2h'ers.
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                • #23
                  Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

                  Awesome.

                  Maybe if I'm lucky I can party my way to 75 on BLM.

                  Not holding my breath.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

                    Originally posted by hongman View Post
                    Awesome.
                    Maybe if I'm lucky I can party my way to 75 on BLM.
                    Not holding my breath.
                    Ya, it would be nice.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

                      Just don't forget it was BLMs who alienated themselves from XP parties not so long ago. After the "Manaburn only" crazyness people simply forgot they existed.

                      Then BLMs complained when they couldn't get in on the higher xp/hr tp-burn parties and couldn't keep manaburning because other BLMs (and mainly BRDs) jumped off the Manaburn wagon and got on the tp-burn one.

                      So the "cry me a river" thing can go both ways.
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                      • #26
                        Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

                        That, and it's hardly 2 handers who should be getting all this flaming ; . ;

                        It's WAR/NIN, MNK and NIN who have been whoring it up for the last 2 years. BLM and RNG at least got to shine for a while, 2 handers have been lol'ed ever since the multi hit WS adjustment.

                        If it ain't broke, don't fix it SE.
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                        • #27
                          Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

                          All this is happened before my time, Iv had exactly 1 party invite from level 40-60.

                          That party was gimp as fuck (as in, I did double exp/hr solo) but you know, it was just a nice change.

                          Soloing BLM is great, not having to stand around lfp like I did on RNG, but also knowing there is a good chance to get an invite is cool.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

                            I haven't leveled BLM since all I could get were Manaburns. Not everyone likes them, but then again this is the problem with the players.

                            Not every BLM only ever did manaburns, but some did, maybe even a lot did. So word gets around and eventually it becomes holy cannon that BLM will only ever party in manaburns so other party leaders won't look to invited them.

                            Then again, this is the same problem that plagues smaller parties (ZOMG only 6 people can get EXP!), partying in other areas, (ToAU ONLY!) and well, just about everything that is slightly different.
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                            • #29
                              Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

                              That is correct, BLM screwed themselves. But they managed it somehow. 2hers now just cry in a corner until they realise they can manage it somehow too. It can go both ways, yea, but... right now... cry me a river

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                              • #30
                                Re: Once again, SE goes too ****ing far with nerfs

                                Well, I had gotten excited about finishing war, which I did for almost the sole intention of taking drg to 75, since I am so utterly disgusted with how summoner currently works, and SE's lack of ability to fix it, or bother to try to do so. And no, last update is not a good effort.

                                If 2H weapons have been utterly reverted, I think I'll go for pup (yeah, yeah, I like it.) as that second job, and maybe try Scholar on my Taru. We'll see. I'll be keeping an eye on the tests and such over the next while and see how things have panned.
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