Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

Actually, printed FFXI strategy/reference guides won't work in U.S. because the players won't pay for them.

Go to Japan, and you'd see plenty of books for FFXI--some updated yearly if not more often, I believe. Then check out the prices, and shake your head at JP players obsessive excesses--yes, those prices are real, and people really do pay for those books at those prices.

We don't get the printed guides/references because we are cheap. (Well, PC penetration in U.S. is also higher, so we can rely solely on online references more easily.)

[favian]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

To be honest the posters around here aren't generally assholes, just that they were peeved at the perceived tone of your post, in which you appeared to demand something unreasonable.

A strategy guide takes time to put together and money to print, but in an MMORPG, new content is added and old content is changed regularly and frequently. It's not worth the trouble just so that it'll become inaccurate in a month and obsolete in three.

If you're willing to pay upwards of $20 for a handsome-looking strategy guide, you might as well just print out any references you need from the various FFXI forums and wikis. Saves you money and you can at least verify how accurate/inaccurate and recent the info is yourself. In the end, that'll give you a lot less headaches and a fuller wallet.

P.S. Another huge source of enmity in this thread was due to the Brady Games strategy guide printed a couple of years back. It was so bad, it took almost two years to dispel some of the bullshit that circulated among the english-speaking community thanks to it. Because of that, nobody wants to see another FFXI strategy guide be made. Ever.

I hope you have a pleasant FFXI experience, and don't be afraid to ask questions around here. The replies won't be as bad as the ones in this thread were.

Thanks armando, you along with a select few consistently redeem the community.

[Ameroth]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

You're being quite small-minded if you think that 2-3 posters on these forums represent the entirety of the FFXI player base.

And Feba wasn't even being an asshole. In fact, he actually helped you out by posting a link to an online player guide for newbies. Then you ignored him completely.

[favian]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

I didn't ignore his post, however whats the point of being helpful when you're gonna be an asshole simutaneously?

Everytime i post here i run into some smug/obnoxious people who see a new player and takes the opportunity to be condescending.

I remember you Ameroth, you were quite nice the last time i posted here earlier this year.

[Ameroth]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

Everytime i post here i run into some smug/obnoxious people who see a new player and takes the opportunity to be condescending.

Unfortunately, you'll find this at any kind of forum/community. Best to just learn to phase out the unwanted/unneeded info and take in what you can use.

P.S. I'm not actually a mean person. Just got off a long, annoying work shift and my tone is probably a little harsh. Or not?

P.P.S. Don't be afraid to post a question if you have one. Someone will take the time to answer you. Just be prepared, if you haven't taken time to research an answer yourself, to get some smug remarks.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

SE putting out a strategy guide? I can see it now.

Page 1: "We want the players to enjoy discovering all of the hidden aspects of this game on their own."

Page 2: back cover.

[Theyaden]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

SE putting out a strategy guide? I can see it now.

Page 1: "We want the players to enjoy discovering all of the hidden aspects of this game on their own."

Page 2: back cover.

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lol I like that one |

I have an old copy of the Brady Guide which was fairly cheap. I found it handy for some of the basic city quests for finding NPC's and especially map quests before I had ranger leveled. I found it useful, but didn't use it as a gospel like some people aparently did. It was just something I could write notes by the missions if there was anything missing or interesting I found. I coulda gotten the same stuff searching online, but $10.00 for a bit of convience was worth the time saved on logging out of the FFXI game, getting the info, writing down key points then logging back into the game to finish the mission. (I don't always have 2 PC's hooked to the dsl. The times I did is was a moot point.)

[Effedup]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

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lol I like that one |

I have an old copy of the Brady Guide which was fairly cheap. I found it handy for some of the basic city quests for finding NPC's and especially map quests before I had ranger leveled. I found it useful, but didn't use it as a gospel like some people aparently did. It was just something I could write notes by the missions if there was anything missing or interesting I found. I coulda gotten the same stuff searching online, but $10.00 for a bit of convience was worth the time saved on logging out of the FFXI game, getting the info, writing down key points then logging back into the game to finish the mission. (I don't always have 2 PC's hooked to the dsl. The times I did is was a moot point.)

Exactly what I think. I have both the "updated" Brady strategy guide (spring 2004 lol) and the Vana'diel atlas, and they do come in somewhat handy when you're in the middle of playing and don't feel like going through the pain in the ass that is logging out, surfing the net, printing something, logging in, etc...

For the short time I actively played WoW, I never needed a guide, as I could just alt-tab and check the net for something (and when I got my second monitor, could just bounce between the two at will). Since FFXI doesn't have the ability to play in a window (HINT HINT S.E.) then having a hard copy to flip through comes in very handy. And since I'm not going to risk getting banned for using windower unlike so many others, it's nice to have a guide to check that doesn't involve all that B.S.

[Balfree]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

I didn't ignore his post, however whats the point of being helpful when you're gonna be an asshole simutaneously?

Everytime i post here i run into some smug/obnoxious people who see a new player and takes the opportunity to be condescending.

I remember you Ameroth, you were quite nice the last time i posted here earlier this year.

Like Ameroth said, please don't take it too seriously. It's my personal request. We'd love it if you stayed with us here at FFXIonline.com.

[Ellipses]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

What someone (you know, not me, 'cause it's work) ought to do is write a screen scraper for FFXIClopedia and/or Somepage that would grab certain sections and assemble them into a PDF. That way you could print the parts you wanted easily (and without all the crap like ads and nav bars and such). The wiki has printable versions of all the pages, of course, but if you want to print, say, Windurst Missions, that's a lot of clicking and separate printing.

Okay, somebody get cracking.

[Feba]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

Or you could, you know, spend the money on a computer.

I mean there's no excuse for spending that much time and money (helluva lot in ink and paper there) when for a comperable amount you could get a computer that would do the same thing, and be constantly updated.

[Ellipses]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

Or you could, you know, spend the money on a computer.
I mean there's no excuse for spending that much time and money (helluva lot in ink and paper there) when for a comperable amount you could get a computer that would do the same thing, and be constantly updated.

There are all kinds of excuses for it, and even a few reasons. Personal preference & convenience are what they are (there are times when a hard copy is more convenient than a browser, and vice versa). I just think reasonably-updated PDFs would make a nice compromise between always-updated sites and always-outdated guides. Especially for stuff that really doesn't change very often, like rank missions, quests, etc.

[Vyuru]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

Go to Japan, and you'd see plenty of books for FFXI--some updated yearly if not more often, I believe. Then check out the prices, and shake your head at JP players obsessive excesses--yes, those prices are real, and people really do pay for those books at those prices.

I've seen those japanese guides, out of curiosity just how expensive are they? Some of those have been very nice, and I wouldn't mind shelling out say like, up to $40 depending on quality and stuff, if I could only read kanji

Exactly what I think. I have both the "updated" Brady strategy guide (spring 2004 lol) and the Vana'diel atlas, and they do come in somewhat handy when you're in the middle of playing and don't feel like going through the pain in the ass that is logging out, surfing the net, printing something, logging in, etc...

then having a hard copy to flip through comes in very handy.

That's more or less why I printed off info for all quests, Weaving synths up to lvl 100, all others to lvl 60-70, and some misc other stuff. If I'm doing a quest and it's not obvious where to go next like some of these quests have been (Why hello there Norg clam water quest of doom) I would rather not log out, get the info, and then log back in, just takes too long and is more of a hassle IMO. Plus I'd rather have a hard copy to flip through.

What someone (you know, not me, 'cause it's work) ought to do is write a screen scraper for FFXIClopedia and/or Somepage that would grab certain sections and assemble them into a PDF. That way you could print the parts you wanted easily (and without all the crap like ads and nav bars and such).

I *think* someone did that, or else did that for the PSP, I can't remember anymore.

[Solymir]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

Is it necessary to fall over ourselves to be rude to the OP? The question has already been answered several times. Posting just to add another insult to the pile isn't helpful.

No, it's not. They could just do +1 and be done with it. Saves time too.

[Snowball]

Re: Hey square how about an up to date strategy guide?

SE putting out a strategy guide? I can see it now.
Page 1: "We want the players to enjoy discovering all of the hidden aspects of this game on their own."
Page 2: back cover.

Was just reading through a few of these posts while I'm downloading something. I come across this post, and I'm sorry to say, but all I can think of is...
LMAO! I can imagine it. Only 1 or 2 pages in the book, with about 100 or so missing. LOL!
Was nearly hysterical over that too. Actually, I needed a laugh, cos it brought me back from a short period of being in a bit of a bad mood about something which happened to me today. so that's all really.