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  • #16
    Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

    oh ya! I hardly noticed that. :D But ya, it sure will be interesting and overwhelming like hearing new music in Sgustaberg and common zones like that.

    oh yeah I also wonder what mobs SGustaberg will have. I guess there will be more quadavs hanging around, but with heavier gear or something. not sure if worms, bats, wasps and birds will still be present, but maybe not, most likely new species will be introduced too. Also the terrain will be vastly different. Oh yeah I wonder if the weather will get an overhaul too. Like imagine the highlands not having any dust storms or thunderstorms but probably just rain or something.

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    • #17
      Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

      That's my main gripe with battle music. The new battle music is always for party only. If I'm soloing in a different area, I should be able to listen to that area's party battle music.

      Edit: Thanks Mal, I wanted to use the animated one where Bartz is casting Spellblade but the system wouldn't allow me.




      Originally posted by FFXI's view on other MMORPGs
      'Start learning boy, no you don't get a tutorial, this is man's country! Tutorial's are for little sissy babies who need their mommies! Now, are you a sissy baby or a man?"
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      • #18
        Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

        weak

        /comfort

        And for the nth time, we don't need new tanks we need an overhaul of DEF and VIT.
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        "BLAH BLAH BLAH TIDAL WAVE!!!"

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        • #19
          Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

          Originally posted by Elenim View Post
          Personally I'm hoping for Mystic Knight. I'd love to see another MP dependent tank. And, as long as I'm wishing, I wish said tank would not require you to sub /war as that is the #1 reason I'm not playing Paladin right now.
          Try /RDM. I hear Phalanx and Stoneskin are awesome for the days you don't want to use /WAR. You also get to cast faster, more MP, and various other things I'm sure I'm forgetting at the moment.

          And, as Malacite stated, we don't need another tank. But, I have a differing reason. Hold on a moment . . .

          EDIT:

          Originally posted by Yellow Mage View Post
          The thing about Tank Jobs, though, is there are two types of Tanking: Blood Tanking and Blink Tanking. Blood Tanking focuses on absorbing every hit you take, whereas Blink Tanking focuses on not getting hit at all: both types are common in their need for their enemy's attention.

          Now, I'm pretty sure you all knew that already, but when you have only two methods of operation, people are obviously going to look for the best of the best in each, narrowing it down to one for each category, and then choosing between the two categories based on preference. The best for the best in Blood Tanking is, by popular choice, Paladin, and the best of the best for Blink Tanking is, again by popular choice, Ninja.

          Though many jobs can actually Tank, people settle for nothing more than the best, limiting themselve to only two, and only because there are two styles of Tanking: if Paladins had it their way, Blink Tanking would be the clear, all-time inferior, so their dominance in Blood Tanking would make them a practical monoply as far as Tank availability goes; rinse, repeat, and invert for Ninja.

          This makes things awfully apparent: no matter how many Tanking jobs you add, there are always only going to be two. For example, if this Dancer turns out to be a better Blink Tank than Ninja, then people will forget Ninja Tanks ever existed, and they can go back to being just another Damage-Dealer. If Square-Enix, however, paid as much attention to the balance of their Tanking Jobs as thier Damage-Dealing Jobs, then far more choices would appear.

          The point I'm making? Tanking is just as bland as Damage-Dealing, and the players just as biased: if one melee Damage Dealer was the clear superior to all the seemingly numerous others . . . you know what, I take that back: the others would still be Damage-Dealers, but that's only because they can't do anything else. They're pretty much out of a job, though, because if you can't do anything else, you can only Deal-Damage. I guess that's why balancing Damage-Dealer jobs is so important.

          But, ignore that one tangent, and know that there are only two Tanking jobs because the playerbase made it so: that is my point above all else.
          Last edited by Yellow Mage; 10-23-2007, 02:59 PM. Reason: {Found it!}
          Originally posted by Armando
          No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
          Originally posted by Armando
          Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
          Originally posted by Taskmage
          GOD IS MIFFED AT AMERICA

          REPENT SINNERS OR AT LEAST GIVE A NONCOMMITTAL SHRUG

          GOD IS AMBIVALENT ABOUT FURRIES

          THE END IS COMING ONE OF THESE DAYS WHEN GOD GETS AROUND TO IT
          Originally posted by Taskmage
          However much I am actually smart, I got that way by confronting how stupid I am.
          Matthew 16:15

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          • #20
            Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

            Hoping for a tank that doesn't need OR perform best with /WAR at any level range is like hoping for a DD that doesn't need /WAR 30+.

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            • #21
              Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

              Is WotG gonna have any tie-ins with the old expansions? The fact I haven't even started on ANY of them leads me to believe I'm going to have to avoid this expansion until I finish the others to avoid spoilers and such. -w-;

              I'm was sort of hoping for this to be my actual first "expansion" so I can sport around with a sig; Zilart: 0/0, CoP: 0/0, ToAU: 0/0, WotG: Complete!
              Originally posted by Yygdrasil
              Originally posted by Nandito
              Ponies.

              Duh.
              You make me want to hurt things.

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              • #22
                Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

                Possibly CoP with Tavnazia, but SE is currently not saying anything about that.

                Wings will deal with the original 30 areas of the game.
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                • #23
                  Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

                  wings will deal with RoTZ CoP and ToAU.

                  Remember Zilart areas will bve referenced to, because the happy ant olk were involveed in the war. the Empire refused to help so they will get mentioning. And the main battle (aka the one in FFXI's intro) took place in a CoP zone so yeah, they will all be tied together for the first time.

                  but like Mal did say. We have been told the expansion deals with the plain 30 zones we started with, and a couple new ones. I am thinking bornder Taz zones may be new, seeing as the area was destroyed and that would account for other things we have been told.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

                    NECROMANCER!!! would be awesome

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                    • #25
                      Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

                      Originally posted by Cesium View Post
                      NECROMANCER!!! would be awesome
                      PUPPETMASTER!!! already exists.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

                        The next person who says they want Necromancer, I am going to smack them with a mutated trout that gives them a non-curable form of diarrhea.




                        Originally posted by FFXI's view on other MMORPGs
                        'Start learning boy, no you don't get a tutorial, this is man's country! Tutorial's are for little sissy babies who need their mommies! Now, are you a sissy baby or a man?"
                        Dymlos
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                        Lv 75 Ranger Lv 75 Samurai

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by Cesium View Post
                          NECROMANCER!!! would be awesome
                          Give me a Flame button, for the love of Altana give me a flame button!

                          I have no choice, in the absence of a flame button...

                          /em throws Mhurron at Cesium!

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                          • #28
                            Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

                            Originally posted by Dymlos View Post
                            The next person who says they want Necromancer, I am going to smack them with a mutated trout that gives them a non-curable form of diarrhea.
                            I want Necromancer.

                            Next person that says they want Geomancer, Mystic Knight or Mime I'll stab in the ears.

                            Seriously, if you don't like Necromancer, don't unlock the job, don't invite them.

                            Something so simple escapes so many~

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                            • #29
                              Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

                              Necromancer is such a western rpg job.


                              Calculator is more like it. :D

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                              • #30
                                Re: Wings of the Goddess Discussion

                                Why were you guys saying we don't need a new tank? I suppose it's not necessary, but seeing as there are 3 of everything, there should be three tanks. And I understand that WAR can tank(a lot of them are just rampagemonkeys though), and I understand that SAM can almost tank, and /nin they can, if they can get off enough ws's.

                                But a tank is needed for all the sheeple that don't believe those two jobs can tank, and won't party with them. And it'd be nice to have a job that's defined as a tank, just to know that we get a job that was made to protect the party. And in a new way, somewhat like the Geomancer outlined in another thread.

                                I think it'd be awesome to get another tank, although I suppose we don't NEED one.

                                Thanks to Roguewolf for the sig. :D

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