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  • #46
    Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

    Originally posted by little ninja View Post
    If it wasn't going to give the moderators a hard time I would say to keep the list up. they cheated, and we suspected it but had no proof. Now we do have proof so it sucks to be them.
    I hope people make logging on to forums a living hell for them as well as ingame if they still play.
    That was my point Little Ninja. This is going to give the mods a horrid time, there are some good people on that list regardless if they bot or not as well. A good deal of my ls mates from past and present linkshells are on that list, they are still good people regardless of botting. I know a few people on that list are about to lose their friends and linkshells, but that is the risk they take with botting.

    We simply do not need the influx in drama here, as many can agree to.
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    • #47
      Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

      I'm just curious that after all these other BG/Taj threads, why someone felt compelled to post another one. Balfree said other drama has nothing to do with this forum, I can agree with him on that much.

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      • #48
        Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

        Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
        I'm just curious that after all these other BG/Taj threads, why someone felt compelled to post another one. Balfree said other drama has nothing to do with this forum, I can agree with him on that much.
        Because people never listen =/
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        • #49
          Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

          I'm generally disconcerned with this issue. After the first event when the majority of the BG members said he went "too far" that was it for me. Whatever happens to this script kitty as of this point isn't my concern.

          That said, I see the purpose in posting such events up on this website: It brings Sev back to say hi occasionally. ^^b

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          • #50
            Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

            Yar, he's been rolled up in Demo stuff as of late, but he's still around.

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            • #51
              Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

              I left my emo corner and decided to come back just with out the drama.
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              • #52
                Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

                I'm sorry but that whole "Well the player is still a good person, it's just that they cheat," BS is crock. How many times have anyone of you blasted cheaters, gil sellers, gil buyers, etc? And now that there's a list of people that cheat in-game, it's ok because they are good players?? I'm sorry but that's just straight up stupid.

                No offense (though I'm sure some will be taken), but you are being hypocritical if you sympathize with players that cheat just because you have an in-game friendship/acquaintanceship with them. All of the players on that huge list deserve to have the fair and due process of SE investigating them, and then hopefully banning them.




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                • #53
                  Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

                  The fact remains that even though the list seems plausible, it may or may not be entirely accurate or truthful. I'm not willing to take a hackers word on who is a hacker. No honor among thieves.
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                  • #54
                    Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

                    Originally posted by Taskmage View Post
                    The fact remains that even though the list seems plausible, it may or may not be entirely accurate or truthful. I'm not willing to take a hackers word on who is a hacker. No honor among thieves.
                    That is true TM, and I agree with that fact. And while I do imagine it's probably pretty humiliating to those people, I can't agree with the point of "Well they're still good people even if they cheat."




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                    • #55
                      Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

                      Originally posted by Ameroth View Post
                      I'm sorry but that whole "Well the player is still a good person, it's just that they cheat," BS is crock. How many times have anyone of you blasted cheaters, gil sellers, gil buyers, etc? And now that there's a list of people that cheat in-game, it's ok because they are good players?? I'm sorry but that's just straight up stupid.
                      No offense (though I'm sure some will be taken), but you are being hypocritical if you sympathize with players that cheat just because you have an in-game friendship/acquaintanceship with them. All of the players on that huge list deserve to have the fair and due process of SE investigating them, and then hopefully banning them.
                      Being a good person has nothing to do with playing ability. Please reread my post, I did not state they were good players, I stated they were good people. No offense taken at all Ameroth, I clearly see the point you are trying to bring to light, I agree they should be investigated by S-E they broke the ToS and if they are banned, they do deserve it. The fact of the matter some of the people on the list just got kicked no explination, no warning. When the fact was they had a bot over a year and stopped botting before joining a linkshell.
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                      • #56
                        Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

                        Originally posted by Taskmage View Post
                        The fact remains that even though the list seems plausible, it may or may not be entirely accurate or truthful. I'm not willing to take a hackers word on who is a hacker. No honor among thieves.
                        Yeah, even thought I saw some names I recognized from Titan and the apparance of those names does not surprise me much, what's to say this guy doesn't have a bone to pick with various people who crossed him? Some of these people could be honest, clean players that just disagreed with him on something for all we know.

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                        • #57
                          Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

                          True you really can't trust a hack. Then again I don't see why he would list the names on over 30 servers. I could see targeting 1 or 2 depending on where his chars are. but 32 servers?

                          Its funny to see all those names from my server and remember every time they were in the right place at the right time every time. How they managed to out claim everyone at every camp. An its also funny to see them try an justify using them. Blaming so and so, saying they only did it for this and that, and the list goes on.

                          But really S.E is to blame for how bad the botting became. Always claiming it was impossible to track. Claiming they would check into it. Making NM's the way they were. Making endgame the way it was. An then to not even really fix it. Just turn out more content so they could forget all about the problems past.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

                            Originally posted by Ameroth View Post
                            That is true TM, and I agree with that fact. And while I do imagine it's probably pretty humiliating to those people, I can't agree with the point of "Well they're still good people even if they cheat."
                            The only thing even close to a justifiable use of that sort of thing is trying to beat out the RMTs at their own game ... I'm not saying it IS justifiable, much less any other use, but given the choice to keep camping and always watch a given character come just in time for pop and claim or that...

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                            • #59
                              Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

                              My two cents on this, take it or leave it.

                              Regardless of the validity of the list, nothing is implied - it's a list of the companies customers, not of people observed botting. There could be names on that list that purchased the program and never used it (unlikely, I know), and there's a decent chance any person on that list no longer bots simply because they were already caught by SE and are clever enough to not risk getting caught a second time.
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                              • #60
                                Re: Botters get pwned by Taj...

                                In regards to that Tsrwedge, I have a good friend on that list. If he uses it, he sucks at it. Apparently he bought it a year ago and hasn't claimed much of anything.
                                I don't doubt that he bought it, though a little surprised that he bought it on this account. His last account was banned for using speed hacks. Most of the time he'd just get them and screw around with them for awhile ingame. He's an idiot, I know, but I'm not gonna stop being his friend over something like this.
                                And there are LOTS of well known people and many well respected people from Fairy on that list.
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