Someone must really have a grudge:

[eticket109]

Re: Someone must really have a grudge:

wow... I checked for this thread earlier but didn't see anything. I hinted at all this in the peeves thread but really didn't want to bring the drama here.
Sev got most of it right. Somehow Taj got into the admin's account for the forums and dumped a backup of the forums onto his pc. He proceeded to play with it until he got into the pm logs. At that point he found any Ultima member that used the pm system to send their info to someone and proceeded to log in to POL and move them to Leviathan.

The numbers are a bit off. 2 got moved to Hades. One of which was a mule account with 13 chars. That account was cleaned out completely. Everything appears to have been NPCed. We're not sure on the status of the second account that got moved there.

Of the ones that got moved to Leviathan, we have recovered all of the info. However, one character was deleted. It appears there may have been a mule created afterwards so recovery may not be possible.

Ironically, I just joined the ls this week so I never expected to really get involved in this. However, when Taj came clean he asked that people contact him if they were still missing account access. I was concerned about one account because the person using it has been very sick and no one has heard from him in a while and I posted Taj could pm me the info if he wanted. He proceeded to do so and also gave me his info, stating he didn't care what I did to it as long as I took pics to 'keep up the lulz'.

I got into his account and proceeded to gather everyone I could and handed back what was there. I'd say ~80% of the gear and ~50% of the gil was recovered. As far as we can tell, no r/e gear was dropped from any accounts except the two on Hades. Once the gear was redistributed I got off his account. For the record all the POL info had been changed by that point and it all appears to be fake.

The transferred characters are probably stuck on Leviathan since we all know how wonderful SE customer service is.

[Mhurron]

Re: Someone must really have a grudge:

That's a very politically-correct way of saying "we're infamous."

Despite what you might think, not everyone hats BG or sees it as the cesspool you would like to paint it as. The posting is nothing but reassurance to those who don't like or have just heard things about the forums that the BG wiki is not just an extension of that.

[Sevv]

Re: Someone must really have a grudge:

SevIfrit, you need to really chill out, I swear I can see your face all red ;p
BG as a whole: wooo Taj is so great
BG now: Taj sucks
hurts when it happens to you huh? hah come back is always great

Wait wait wait...

I am worked up, Lol. Face red sure if you can see thru my palm as I read the majority of the dumb shit that has been posted.

Sev: Again, I'm replying to you. That doesn't mean I'm talking about you specifically. Learn the difference, as it has nothing to do with returns or grammar.
And really, Sev, you don't need to play FFXI in order to speak English. In fact, it might benefit you if you focused more on the latter.
edit: also, you're doing this wrong. PROTIP: Get mhurron. He might actually be able to make me cry.

Moderator's Edit: Flaming is not allowed.

Feba rule #2:

When someone notices you are talking out of your ass, quickly scramble to make no real point but insult their english.

Wait what am I doing here Feba? I was looking for a debate, seeing you tend to enjoy taking shots at people's intelligence and grammar, but you do nothing more then back track taking shots at grammar again. So what is wrong here Feba, If the posters here are not as intelligent as you why do you back tracked when confronted.

I think you may want to focus on leaving your house, maybe even attempt to make an accomplishment in the real world.

It's really awful what he did. Unforgivable. But mob justice isn't really my thing.

Not really in response to Murphie, but it is funny how the people who said BG getting up in arms about FFXI Wiki are now suggesting Mob justice.

[Kirsteena]

Re: Someone must really have a grudge:

Despite what you might think, not everyone hats BG or sees it as the cesspool you would like to paint it as. The posting is nothing but reassurance to those who don't like or have just heard things about the forums that the BG wiki is not just an extension of that.

Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in-fa-me...

I personally don't hate BG, there is some damn good info in there. You just have to sift through. I also have friends within the linkshell itself. In some ways, it's become a pastiche of itself, people expect drama, so they make it. The wiki, I feel, will be done with the minimum of drama, and just be the facts. You may not agree, but you can always edit it.

[Sevv]

Re: Someone must really have a grudge:

Sorry eticket, 2 were moved to hades. Also if needed I can pm you who to talk to at S-E to move your linkshell mates back.

[eticket109]

Re: Someone must really have a grudge:

Seriously, can we have a thread that doesn't devolve into BG/FFWiki bs? I hate to say it but probably not this one. In the end, that was the root cause for all of this.

There was no grudge against the ls. Yes, one of the people that got moved bought a couple hundred dollars worth of gil back in '04 but Taj didn't care about that. This all blossomed out of two things: a disagreement with a former ls member and Taj's boredom.

This isn't a matter of anyone being irresponsible with their info. They sent it through forum PMs to people they had played with or known for years. Taj came across the info and he used it, simple as that.

[Feba]

Re: Someone must really have a grudge:

Sev: considering the entire point of your little bitchfest right now is entirely because you are unable to read, yes, I'm going to insult your posts that you claim aren't dumbed down.

And really Sev, you have no idea what I do with my life. And really, I'd just drop it if I were you.

[Sevv]

Re: Someone must really have a grudge:

Sev: considering the entire point of your little bitchfest right now is entirely because you are unable to read, yes, I'm going to insult your posts that you claim aren't dumbed down.

Or is it because you are unable to post properly?

And really Sev, you have no idea what I do with my life. And really, I'd just drop it if I were you.

Prove me wrong then.

[Kirsteena]

Re: Someone must really have a grudge:

Someone close this thread - it has devolved to shitty flaming....

[neighbortaru]

Re: Someone must really have a grudge:

This isn't a matter of anyone being irresponsible with their info. They sent it through forum PMs to people they had played with or known for years. Taj came across the info and he used it, simple as that.

actually that was a pretty big fau pax... forums are not secure and something like login info should really not be sent across them, even in PMs.

Anyhow, it looks like things have finally been "resolved" unless there is anything more to add (besides bickering) i am going to lock