Shocked..

[Grizzlebeard]

Re: Shocked..

Congratulations, you're just as big of an ass as the party leader.

Care to explain this statement because I'm just not getting your point.

[Kailea]

Re: Shocked..

Congratulations, you're just as big of an ass as the party leader.

I am sorry but the BLM was in all his right to do what he did, you never do what that PT leader did, its so rude....... and the PT supporting it by useing the old ass and stupid statement "its only a game"


Yes its only a game, BUT on the other end are players like ourselves, not NPCs or AI controlled helpers like in all other RPG games. You dont just throw someone out because they are not needed anymore.

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Shocked..

I am sorry but the BLM was in all his right to do what he did

Absolutely FALSE.

We all signed away those "options", since S-E's user policy specifically forbids:

The use of the Game or the PlayOnline Service to harass any third party, including other users of the Game

And, forbids:

Consistently depriving other players of the chance to enjoy combat over an extended period of time.

As well as:

Any other action that is determined by a GM to cause a disruption in gameplay.

That kind of retaliatory action is simply against the rules. That BLM has no such rights as to deprive any party of exp'ing by using high level job to interfere with their leveling activities, and neither does anyone else.

Please do not advocate violation of th user policy.

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Seriously, there are enough of idiots in the game that if you focus so much effort at every one of them, you'd burn out in short orders.

Just let it go. Pretend you're a Buddhist or something if you have to--I do that all the time. Really, it's not that hard after taking one to three deep breaths (and complain on your LS for a bit).

[Wise Donkey]

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Ifrit is absolutely right. I whole-heartedly agree that the offending party deserved to have a shitty time for what they did, but nuking a zone with your 75 effects more than just the one party. Just because someone deserves retribution, does not mean you have the right to dish it out.

[Kailea]

Re: Shocked..

yes killing all in the zone is bad, but the OP was going by what he "heard" BLM could have just targeted the area that that PT was in. I am not for "greaving" but really, the Leader and most of that PT need to really learn some social manners.......

[Mhurron]

Re: Shocked..

yes killing all in the zone is bad, but the OP was going by what he "heard" BLM could have just targeted the area that that PT was in. I am not for "greaving" but really, the Leader and most of that PT need to really learn some social manners.......

So ignoring said social manners is the way to teach others those manners? If they don't already have them, they aren't going to learn them from someone who is no more then a few pixels to them.

Sorry, but 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' If you wouldn't want someone to clear a zone because of some trivial insult then don't do it. If you wouldn't want to be kicked from a party just so the party leaders friend could have a party then don't do it yourself.

However you have no control over what someone else does, only your own actions. So unless you want to perpetuate the believe that its ok to break the ToS if you're going after someone who hurt your feelings all you can do is go your merry way, black list the idiots and have nothing to do with them.

[Kailea]

Re: Shocked..

So ignoring said social manners is the way to teach others those manners? If they don't already have them, they aren't going to learn them from someone who is no more then a few pixels to them.
Sorry, but 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' If you wouldn't want someone to clear a zone because of some trivial insult then don't do it. If you wouldn't want to be kicked from a party just so the party leaders friend could have a party then don't do it yourself.
However you have no control over what someone else does, only your own actions. So unless you want to perpetuate the believe that its ok to break the ToS if you're going after someone who hurt your feelings all you can do is go your merry way, black list the idiots and have nothing to do with them.

'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' ...... *twitch*
oh god.... dont throw that Bible BS at me -.-

yes the BLM was in the wrong as well, but not as much as the PT leader, and they got what they deserved.

[Mhurron]

Re: Shocked..

You need to relax and accept good advice from many sources. Since you seem to have some aversion to the most common version in the western world, perhaps you could listen to one of the following:

Buddhism: 560 BC, From the Udanavarga 5:18- "Hurt not others with that which pains yourself."

Hinduism: 3200 BC, From the Hitopadesa- "One should always treat others as they themselves wish to be treated."

Zoroastrianism: 600 BC, From the Shast-na-shayast 13:29- "Whatever is disagreeable to yourself, do not do unto others."

Confucianism: 557 BC, From the Analects 15:23- "What you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others."

Mhurron: 2007 AD, from right here - "Don't bitch and moan when people do to you what you will do to others, stop being a damn dickhead."

The party leader was a ass, the BLM was an ass and broke the ToS, if you want to argue who was more in the wrong, you're rooting for the wrong person.

[Kailea]

Re: Shocked..

damn...... you got me with the Buddhist one -.-

ok ok yeah I know, I am a nice person....bit argumentative ;p but nice most of the time, but when I get angry I get a bit...well combative. I still find the PT leader more in the wrong (morally wise) but I don't want to start anything here ^.^

BLM choose the wrong way to retaliate..........
PT Leader was an ass.........
Party members should have not encouraged said assness...........

and the phrase "its just a game" ironically cant be applied to a MMORPG since we are all playing togeasther.

[Shadowneko]

Re: Shocked..

I had something similar with a rude JP party recently...and most of the other JPs I've met were lots of fun XD

There's just rude people everywhere...you just have to deal with it...

[Sevv]

Re: Shocked..

See now what the blm did wrong if you low dot all the mandies and pull them down the tunnel, now when the dots wear off you sleep them which effectively cuts all exp chances for the party, that would be greaving.

Every person no matter what level has the right to kill any/every pop, regardless of level. Just because you have the right to doesn't mean you wont be looked at as an ass.

[Fliegar]

Re: Shocked..

At the time it was just the one party with the jackass leader exping on mandragoras, and another one on the other side of the entrance killing goblins, so I don't think killing mandragoras hurt the other party all too much.

[Irisjir Callard]

Re: Shocked..

Perhaps Kailea, since she seems to allergic to the bible, would feel more comfortable with a source neither old nor reputable, but taken from the modern fantasy-witchcraft which these days passes for pagan:

"Do what thou wiltst, harming none"

Although that does come from a similar saying of druidic origin...let's go for something even more modern.

"Do nothing to another that you would not have rebounded upon yourself"

Hmm...that also has ties to the Law of Three, another staple of the old, respected east european pagan lines.



*Goes off on an off-topic rant about how much she personally hates bible-bashers*

[Sevv]

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*Goes off on an off-topic rant about how much she personally hates bible-bashers*

I personally only bash the bible to certain people, i.e. my grandparents who enjoy telling me my daughter is shit because she was born out of wedlock, the priest who tried to tell me my grandfather was going to hell, who later was sent to the hospital, oh and anyone who tries to impose the bibles word on others. Sharing the knowledge and the teachings are great things to do, but people who take it too far and force them to convert is wrong. but that is a different convo.

[nanatsu]

Re: Shocked..

If I kicked some poor sap from my party without warning and for no good reason just to invite a friend, then dammit I hope that guy does come back with his 75 char just to screw up my pt's ability to exp. Maybe then I'd learn to not be such an ass.

So yeah "Do nothing to another that you would not have rebounded upon yourself" works pretty well.