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  • #46
    Re: Want solo job? why?

    Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
    BLM has nothing to protect them like RDM, BLM and BST do.
    Originally posted by Armando
    No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
    Originally posted by Armando
    Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
    Originally posted by Taskmage
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    Originally posted by Taskmage
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    • #47
      Re: Want solo job? why?

      Originally posted by Raydeus View Post
      I wish soloing xp was much better, I mean if a party can make 10-20k xp/hr then you should be able to make at least 50% of that to make some progress even if your play time is limited.

      Sadly the max xp/hr I've been able to get soloing is 4k-ish with xp ring. That was soloing as DRK but only at lower lvls. At higher lvls you get really bad xp/hr rates soloing, and even as a BST I've heard the xp isn't that good.
      The only times I've seen more than 10k exp/hr is in one of those insane merit parties. That's probably not a good measuring stick for typical exp from 1 to 75. Even in a merit party, there's no guarantee you'll break 10k exp/hr. The last merit pt I was in might have broken 6k exp/hr, if not for a lot of downtime due to various reasons.

      If you consider good exp from a pt as 8k exp/hour, a rate that is 50% is attainable for jobs that are well suited to soloing. I've done 4k exp/hour as BST at a couple of ToAU camps now, even after taking out the impact of the exp bonus from Empress Band.

      Making half as much exp/hour isn't a raw deal, especially if it means I can spend twice as much time actually exp'ing (instead of spending half of my time seeking).
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      • #48
        Re: Want solo job? why?

        Originally posted by Yellow Mage View Post
        You want a cookie for pointing out typos? Where were you when I needed a copy editor?

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        • #49
          Re: Want solo job? why?

          Originally posted by LyonheartLakshmi View Post
          The only times I've seen more than 10k exp/hr is in one of those insane merit parties. That's probably not a good measuring stick for typical exp from 1 to 75. Even in a merit party, there's no guarantee you'll break 10k exp/hr. The last merit pt I was in might have broken 6k exp/hr, if not for a lot of downtime due to various reasons.

          If you consider good exp from a pt as 8k exp/hour, a rate that is 50% is attainable for jobs that are well suited to soloing. I've done 4k exp/hour as BST at a couple of ToAU camps now, even after taking out the impact of the exp bonus from Empress Band.

          Making half as much exp/hour isn't a raw deal, especially if it means I can spend twice as much time actually exp'ing (instead of spending half of my time seeking).
          Yeah, the amount of xp a party can get varies according to lvl, but 50% xp is what I would aim at for soloing. The thing is I meant it for all jobs, while already soloing capable jobs like BST should be able to pull 80% the amount of xp a party can (given they go to a proper camp and don't try to compete with parties).

          Really, the problem for a player with such a limited amount of time to play like me is that my only choice for soloing xp beyond level 50 at a decent pace right now would have to be BST, and that's a job that is last on my leveling list along with DRG.

          Parties should remain as the main choice for leveling up since XI is so party based, but SE needs to cut soloers and people with less than 2 hrs to play a day some slack so they can still enjoy the game even if they level up somewhat slower.
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          • #50
            Re: Want solo job? why?

            Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
            You want a cookie for pointing out typos? Where were you when I needed a copy editor?
            Apologies; I had failed to consider you may have meant BLU.

            As for where I was . . . normally I'd have a sarcastic response for something like this, but today, you caught me on a blank. Congratulations.
            Originally posted by Armando
            No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
            Originally posted by Armando
            Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
            Originally posted by Taskmage
            GOD IS MIFFED AT AMERICA

            REPENT SINNERS OR AT LEAST GIVE A NONCOMMITTAL SHRUG

            GOD IS AMBIVALENT ABOUT FURRIES

            THE END IS COMING ONE OF THESE DAYS WHEN GOD GETS AROUND TO IT
            Originally posted by Taskmage
            However much I am actually smart, I got that way by confronting how stupid I am.
            Matthew 16:15

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            • #51
              Re: Want solo job? why?

              I just hope they make any future solo jobs as versitile as PUP. PUP can use a different puppet dependent on partying where their puppet won't take damage (Sharpshot), partying where their puppet will take some AOE damage (mage puppet), and soloing.

              With the xp bonus from Signet, it has become my preference to party in a duo or trio. My last party cosisted of a SAM/RNG, RDM/WHM, and PUP/WAR. We were in Boyahda Tree chaining T-VT Darters for 4k xp an hour. Since none of us had to leave, we were able to get 20k xp in one party. I have trio'd with PUP, BST, DRG, THF, and RNG at this location now. All of the jobs worked well.

              FYI: A good WHM could have replaced the RDM, but I play both RDM and SAM at once. I know it could be done because I have gone a whole hour without using convert. Most of the time though I play more aggressively to make use of it. The WHM would just need some decent hMP gear and food. Also I always pull to within AOE range of my RDM and fight there so that I can cast barwatra without moving her. This does cause me to waist MP on Stoneskin and a cure before convert.
              Last edited by Ryoii/Nonomii; 07-18-2007, 01:57 PM.

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