Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

[Luthric]

Ehh... my bad, just realized this is posted somewhere else. Anyhoo, just alerting again that there was a review with Gamespot on the new WoG, several jobs and crap.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/final...86&mode=recent

[Legal Fish]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

Everything you've heard before this about WotG was a lie.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

All hail Gamespot, bringers of truth!

Everything 1UP, FFXIclopedia, and all the others say is a lie!

[Luthric]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

Too bad they weren't able to get details on the jobs, ah well SE is always secret like this.

[Lilani]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

I know this is a bit off topic...but I'm curious: what "lies" did those other sites release before this came out? Just stuff like rumors they heard and things they assumed to fill in the gaps? :\

[Kailea]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

so it reall is true........son of a.... more jobs... I was just about to have all jobs at 37 and now they are adding more.... *sigh*


oh well this time it better be propper FF jobs.... last time BLU was the only real FF job they added, PUP was nice and COR was ok, but they where not real FF jobs.
I had better see
Dancer
Geomancer
Time Mage
Mimic
Chemist
....something from FF 3,5 and Tactics

[LoneGamer]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

Why is Dancer "proper"? What Final Fantasy titles has it been in apart from Tactics and 10-2? How will Time Mage be different than Red Mage? How would Mimic work? What would Chemist do that wouldn't make the class completely prohibitive due to item costs?

[Kailea]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

Proper as in real FF jobs, not BS ones made up because they did not feel like working in the old ones.....

Dancer was in FFX-2 Tactics, and as well as in FF 5 and 6 (mog was a dancer/gemancer)

Chemist would just be a gil eater like NIN RNG and COR

Mimic would work like Mimic has in every other FF game

[KingOfZeal]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

I love how you say "Mimics would work like Mimic has in every other FF game".

Certainly the most bizarre job in Final Fantasy history, the Mime relies on copying other members of the party, usually the last action performed. They can usually equip a whole host of items, making them very useful. However, they also require a lot of planning in battle to actually use effectively. The mime usually behaves eccentrically, and their clothing reflects on that.

Gogo from Final Fantasy VI is the only mime in the Final Fantasy series.

It's only been in three games as an actual job -- V, VI and Tactics.

Also, as far as Dancer, think Bard but focused more on debuffing enemies instead of buffing the party.

[Kailea]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

I love how you say "Mimics would work like Mimic has in every other FF game".
It's only been in three games as an actual job -- V, VI and Tactics.

well it would ;p copy abilities, or mimic moves, would need some major ajusting for an MMO style play, but it would be done.

[Murphie]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

So if it required major adjustments, how would it be the same?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

What would Chemist do that wouldn't make the class completely prohibitive due to item costs?

/sigh

A consumable-based job is only cost-prohibitive to the players that make it so. If you can't manage your gil - which seems to be the case with some players - jobs like NIN, RNG and COR aren't for you.

Expenses only start to mount for COR and RNG at 50, RNG is very cheap to level as a sub and can practically live off a crossbow for several levels of thier careers. Crossbow ammo will cost a RNG less than NIN tools cost NINs. Its the arrows and silver bullets at 50+ where expenses are big. And that's easy to get around with some planning.

Additionally, in the case of RNG and COR, SE practically goes out of thier way to make some of their best gear and weapons R/E, NM or BCNM drops during the core levels of their career. Free stuff. RNG and COR spend much, much less on armor and weapons than most melee classes do. Its not even close. Most expensive armor I ever bought for these job were Dusk Trousers.

Really, just those. Ran me a mil tops.

The difference between NIN and the others is NIN tapers off a bit on tool expense at 75. They can really stretch out those enfeeb and elemental ninjutsu tools. Its mostly shehei and R/E armor after that, the expense for RNG and COR never changes from 50+ and doesn't ever taper off. But again, with some planning, its not that hard to manage, even with a couple other jobs on the table.

Were SE to add Alchemist to the game, they'd likely follow RNG and COR in design for Armor and Weapons, they'd make thier best stuff R/E to offset the constant need for ammo and consumables. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if Alchemists got guns, too, they hand guns in past games.

If Alchemist were added, its probably the one I would most likely level since its known to share a common trait with COR and RNG - guns. And Guns mean /RNG would not go to waste and that /WHM is also very practical as Alchemist would be more of a backliner. It also means I have an arsenal already awaiting the job.

A big thing about consumable jobs is finding overlap between the jobs, too. Whats good for my RNG is generally good for my COR and most of the melee gear COR can use that RNG can't, BLU or THF could. And RNG and THF share some ground, those acid bolts woudl be enjoyed by THF.

Its all about having a plan.

[Legal Fish]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

Imagine if Mime could use enemy TP moves?! That wouldn't be like any other job we just got!

[silentsteel]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

And for people that might be like "Chemist would require Alchemy Leveled" many people level crafts that coincide with their job. Ranger (and sometimes thf for crossbow bullets) would be Woodworking, Beastmaster would be Cooking, with a few others I cant think of. but yeah, it would be similar to that I would think.

[LoneGamer]

Re: Some REAL facts bout Wings/Wog/wings of the goddess

Kitten, aren't medicines generally more expensive than ammunition and ninja tools right now? If people are leveling a job that depends on them in addition to existing consumption, prices will skyrocket and the job will not be feasible due to high cost to level.