a new merit system please?

[Lmnop]

Re: a new merit system please?

first off, I wanna point out that this was my original sentence:

And the best part is how I'll somehow be vilified for this post.... probably something about how I need to "lighten up."

But I didn't want to call it, so I edited it out since that'd make people go out of their way to avoid saying just that. Thus, I threw up a little when I read this:

you need to lighten the hell up lmnop.

lawl.

next order of bid'niz:

I know exactly what he was saying.

No you don't. I don't need to look further for proof:

but I also know it's pretty much a useless idea because no one is going to choose to limit themselves to low level parties to get merits just to help out lower leveled parties.

There. This is the part where I make claims like:

You would rather just gloss over the details and think about how it'd affect you and how the world revolves around you.

I have a friend who barely ever plays. Big part of that being that me and my sister are always doing 70+ stuff. He's 55. It's not very appealing when the only thing we can do with him is to help him with his AF. It makes him feel like there's nothing he can do for us (and there really isn't). If I could lower my level to exp with him, it'd make it a lot more appealing for him (especially since he's a magnet for the worst parties possible).

Would I care if I wasn't getting 14k/hour? I'd be happy to get 5k limit points/hour because you know what? I'm enjoying the company of friends in what I last knew to be a social game.

There's also the factor of availability and what-have-you. i.e. everyone's 75 these days so it's a bit harder to get parties in the lower levels. It's even harder to find a 75 merit spot open.

But I don't really care to defend the idea much more because it's obvious it's not a popular one. That's fine by me.

What it comes down to at the end of the day: I don't care about joking and having fun, but you made a fellow poster seem like an idiot. Not just a kind jibe, you made him feel like an inferior human being. Do I sound like a kindergarten teacher yet?

I fail to see how it's a joke if you scare someone away from the boards. Someone who'll no doubt think dual wield doubles tp gain and damage since we weren't around to tell him otherwise...


And Skoal: I wouldn't want it implemented unless you could choose the exact level -- afterall, look at Assaults and the fact that you can cap yourself to the level of one member if you're level 63, for instance. And being able to set myself at level 33 for a Citadel party would be A OK, even when everyone else hits 35. I can leave, go change cap and come back, or make it capable of changing on the fly instead of just at moogle. Many things you could do with it -- just because we have ideas doesn't mean that if S-E implemented them that we'd be pissed unless they did it exactly how we wanted. That was a confusing sentence but I mean to say that S-E still makes the game.

[Sevv]

Re: a new merit system please?

Wrote alot of shit tbh I didn't read

Hi2U That is why I said it can I get a:

What it comes down to at the end of the day: I don't care about joking and having fun, but you made a fellow poster seem like an idiot. Not just a kind jibe, you made him feel like an inferior human being. Do I sound like a kindergarten teacher yet?

It starts as a joke and when you post any idea on a forum, you will get people who don't agree it started as a joke then he came back, then found out he lied, personally I don't think the board needs a shit load of liars do you?

[Vyuru]

Re: a new merit system please?

Glad to see that the definition of newb vs n00b has been covered already.

As far as meriting at the lower levels..... Um, hell yeah baby! So what if it is lower exp per hour than at higher camps? I'd love to be able to get a WS at a lower level than I otherwise would have, gain other benefits than I otherwise would have. So what if it takes you longer? Hell, let's look at it this way. If you could merit your weaponry skills, you gain more damage and +acc, so suddenly you do not need those lvl 40 +acc rings quite so badly. Other gear would fall by the wayside, why? Because you can merit earlier and gain those benefits earlier, suddenly other gear options may become available.

Or you could really pimp yourself out and have full merits AND the +acc gear and just be a beast.

Be the beast!


And leveling in level capped areas is actually rather effective. I went on an Aqueducts run recently, we had about.... An alliance of 10 players I believe it was, 10 or 11, I forget, with a lvl 40 cap. We were farming the formors to get a bronze key to open the door farther in, and you know we were getting 100-130 exp per kill for fights that lasted about 50 seconds, maybe less? That is VERY viable exp IMO, especially for an alliance and no exp ring on. We could have chained the Werebats for exp while we waited for Formor repops if we were an exp party, and we could have killed that Formor party that was a little farther in easily if we had had a bard for sleeping.

Yes I would like some form of self imposed optional level cap. I may not have jobs in the X level range to party with LS members or friends. Or else I may only have a healing job and they need a DD. We just got some players new to the game in my LS and I would have to rush level my whm to an appropriate level for smn to be able to party with them, I have no other jobs that level. Or you know, wait for them to get to lvl 40 or so, which is a tad bit unacceptable to me, I want to party with them while they are newbs to the game. I would love to take my dragoon through the lower levels with them again, show them the Maze or Korroloka Tunnel, and all the oddball exp places I went to back in the day instead of Valkurm.

You know, all of us carry around a ton of level capped equipment, I want more options open to actually using it.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: a new merit system please?

You know, all of us carry around a ton of level capped equipment, I want more options open to actually using it.

I wish this was true, but its so not.

I keep level capped gear, but trying to get anyone else to is migraine-inducing. I can't count how many times I've told a member of my LS to come as PLD to CoP missions and, yet, he comes BST because he refuses to buy capped gear for PLD.

So I kicked him from static and got a NIN from the LS that would bring the gear.

[Cotners]

Re: a new merit system please?

Playing a capped job with friends in a non-capped area. It works if everyone is switched to merits and will not level up. How is this going to help lower level people like the OP wanted too.

This would still work if you could adjust your level limit on the fly.

[Solymir]

Re: a new merit system please?

I also know it's pretty much a useless idea because no one is going to choose to limit themselves to low level parties to get merits just to help out lower leveled parties.

I would.

[Lmnop]

Re: a new merit system please?

This would still work if you could adjust your level limit on the fly.

If need be, you could impose something like the Blue mage system. Maybe just Weaken you when you make the change, so at the very least you're out of the action for 5 minutes -- but you don't have to run back to town (or even jeuno-only).

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: a new merit system please?

I would.

Why?

And do you have a job at 75?

[Skoal]

Re: a new merit system please?

This would still work if you could adjust your level limit on the fly.

Like I said in that original post, I am sure SE would make it so it wasn't that easy. Nothing is every easy with them.

[Solymir]

Re: a new merit system please?

Why?

And do you have a job at 75?

Yes. Warrior 75. Occasionally an LS member will have a 5/6 party and need help filling that last spot. It would be a bonus if I knew all of the other people in the party as well. Partying with people i know has always been more fun than with people I've never met. Having said that, I don't mind partying with others, how else am I going to meet new people right..?

[Murphie]

Re: a new merit system please?

By leveling other jobs?

[Kailea]

Re: a new merit system please?

what is with all these threads popping up lately by people that think they know a better way to do something.

this is SEs game, let them adjust it they way they want/need to, they would know more about it than anyone else would.

[Solymir]

Re: a new merit system please?

By leveling other jobs?

I'm not 100% sure you were speaking to me, but just in case. I do level other jobs. In fact lately I've been bouncing around on several different lower level jobs. It's some of the most fun I've had since my first static reached 75.

On a side note, my Character Information is not hidden from everyone is it?

[Murphie]

Re: a new merit system please?

I just meant that that's an easier way to level with your friends than changing the whole system.

[Solymir]

Re: a new merit system please?

And it's the only one currently. Even though I have enjoyed the experience gained from the merit parties I have been in, it would be nice to do something different for a change. Variety is the spice, and all that. The using the capped zones is a great idea. I've heard of decent exp/hr parties in the riverne sites, and the aquaducts. Unfortunately they aren't viable options until level 38-39ish.

Has anyone ever tried to exp party in the promyvion areas? What level party would benefit from leveling just on the first floor..? The party could go up a floor when exp started to get slow. Just a thought.