Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

[robinkle]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

The reason he suggested you be able to do everything, is because you would be able to do everything, because you would have every job at 75. You would be able to merit on any job, and use any weapon, etc.

I know your point. Having all jobs at 75, would be a reward it self. It's true. you can do alot of stuff, actually you can do everything everyone else can,unless you you haven't done the missions yet, but you would have the jobs for it.

Let's pretend SE implemented this. You get a reward when all jobs is 75, BUT you need to beat maat one last time on all jobs, and he gets a heart attack and dies when you see him after the last fight, then he says "Take this, you've earned it" and dies. It would be the final end of maat. And you could get a reward from that.

It would be like doing any quest, go get item and trade to NPC for a reward and all that.
You get fame, that could be a reward it self. But getting the gils is the real reward, as Maat cap +1 (or what ever reward you get) does when you "kill" maat.

[Sevv]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

I admit my mistakes. I get carried on. I'm very sorry.

Np just relax here, think about what your idea. Then use most of the members ideas and knowledge to expand it, no one is out to get you here well usually.

To me, suggesting being able to do everything, is just too much above the limit passed unrealistic, and I was seeing what you wrote as Sarcasm, thats why I reacted how I did. I'm sorry for the missunderstanding. Seriously.

I got an idea for a reward....
You can merit everything,
Use every spell for pc's in the game,
Wield Any weapon,
Use any armor,
Use every WS,
Merit on any job,
Never have to exp another job to 75,

Yes it was some sarcasm, but its all completely true. The only way to be able to achieve all of those listings is every job at 75.

I would like to know pros and cons, how it could be made to work, and if it doesnt work at all, type why. That would to me be a satisfying answer.

Could a reward be added? Yes
Would the reward probably be a joke in most player's eyes? Yes
Would it make more people max out all jobs? No
Does S-E have more important things to do? Hell yes

S-E has alot more pressing matters to attend to, making sure the new expansion doesn't fail, finishing ToAU and adding a somewhat hard fight to the Story. The long awaited Bst "fix". Balancing out jobs, giving pup some dd gear, etc.

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As the first reply in my thread "It would be too overpowered." It actually makes other readers to post with the same view. It has a bad effect on the thread.

You got the whole over powered idea because you lead off with a third sub job, the majority of people posting with this idea were probably targeted at that point.

[robinkle]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

Np just relax here, think about what your idea. Then use most of the members ideas and knowledge to expand it, no one is out to get you here well usually.




Yes it was some sarcasm, but its all completely true. The only way to be able to achieve all of those listings is every job at 75.



Could a reward be added? Yes
Would the reward probably be a joke in most player's eyes? Yes
Would it make more people max out all jobs? No
Does S-E have more important things to do? Hell yes

S-E has alot more pressing matters to attend to, making sure the new expansion doesn't fail, finishing ToAU and adding a somewhat hard fight to the Story. The long awaited Bst "fix". Balancing out jobs, giving pup some dd gear, etc.

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You got the whole over powered idea because you lead off with a third sub job, the majority of people posting with this idea were probably targeted at that point.

I'll give you a thanks for this.

And yes, SE would have alot more important things to. I wonder if I could come up with something that would make SE do as priority. But it might require something lol.

[Sevv]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

It started off with people voicing opinions and slowly moved into the relm of flaming opinions. People attacked the OP because they think a reward for getting all jobs to 75 was 'not necesaary', and all the items I mentioned are things in game that aren't 'necessary' either.

This is agreed upon but it happens really, got out of hand.

And no, you can't 'purchase' the guild items, you have to get your Craft skill to a certain point to even gain access to those items. But as nice as they are, not one is in any way needed, just like an item from getting all jobs 75.

By purchasing i meant the items you trade in you can buy every single one of them, and not do the work. I craft lol. And some are needed in order to provide hqs.

Not once did he say a reward was needed, in fact he specifically said it wasn't needed. Yet people still flame and bait him by asking things like 'Why do you think a reward beyond Maat's Cap is necessary?' That's not the point of this topic nor was it ever the OPs intent to say it was. he asked if anyone thought those who leveled all jobs to 75 deserved a 'nice' reward then gave some suggestions and asked for feedback.

I c.
Not enaugh to have any huge effect on game balance I think.
the rewards I suggested is prolly a minor drop in the sea of what can be given as a reward. But something good I think is deserved ^^

What items that is needed or not, is up to each individual if the would like to have it or not.

As I see this you would be just as happy with no reward when all jobs is 75, cuz you arent gona do that yourself probably. am I right?

And there are many people who think it would be nice to get *something* small and showy for it who posted in this thread, so the idea isn't that bad. It's just his rewards were a bit much, which he admited and asked for others opinions.

Some people gave him ideas and still got shot back at.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

Actually, he said several times that a reward was needed to encourage more people to do it.

You know, I think I could stop levelling jobs right now and be satisfied where I am, I just hate the idea of have taken BST and DRG so far only to leave them where they are, so those along with BLU are the only ones I'd ever bother with to 75 at this point. But I'm talking two different characters with three jobs per here.

People who end up levelling too many jobs have problems prioritizing merits and have a hard time keeping each job adequately capped at 75, which is all kinds of annoying. Would this incentive be worth that headache?

Nah, nothing would be.

[Sevv]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

But it might require something lol.

That something is a hostile take over.

edit:

And if you wanted a real reward for all jobs at 75 very easy to put into the game as well as won't break the game?

Cap all Combat Bat skills. Offense only.

[Murphie]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

You know, I think I could stop levelling jobs right now and be satisfied where I am, I just hate the idea of have taken BST and DRG so far only to leave them where they are, so those along with BLU are the only ones I'd ever bother with to 75 at this point. But I'm talking two different characters with three jobs per here.

People who end up levelling too many jobs have problems prioritizing merits and have a hard time keeping each job adequately capped at 75, which is all kinds of annoying. Would this incentive be worth that headache?

Nah, nothing would be.

Agreed completely. It's hard enough to do really well at one job, much less 18.

[Hantz]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

Despite the few 'only losers play that much' type posts, which is irony at it's finest, there were no flames.

Feel free to check my levels. They are current, and I stick by my robot idea, hypocrisy free.

[robinkle]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

You know, I think I could stop levelling jobs right now and be satisfied where I am, I just hate the idea of have taken BST and DRG so far only to leave them where they are, so those along with BLU are the only ones I'd ever bother with to 75 at this point. But I'm talking two different characters with three jobs per here.

People who end up levelling too many jobs have problems prioritizing merits and have a hard time keeping each job adequately capped at 75, which is all kinds of annoying. Would this incentive be worth that headache?

Nah, nothing would be.

You might be one of those who wouldn't aim for a reward after taking all jobs to 75. and We need such players too. Or the reward wouldnt be any cool.

To look at it from a different view, everything has it's price. Overpowered reward might have changed your mind about leveling. But I agree to most people in the forum. Something realistic wouldnt make players expect you to have all the jobs done

This is for the those who are interested in leveling mostly or have played for enaugh years to even come as far as getting all jobs to 75.

[robinkle]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

That something is a hostile take over.

edit:

And if you wanted a real reward for all jobs at 75 very easy to put into the game as well as won't break the game?

Cap all Combat Bat skills. Offense only.

Capped skills wont effect game at all which is good. And its a nice suggestion.

I think people have very different individual thoughts about a fair reward. I would like to hear more opinions of a great reward.
Personally capped skills wouldnt be a big reward, because most of your skills might have been capped allready. Even at with my 5th job to 75, I got parry skill 201. It would be nice to have it capped, but I think it will be when all my jobs is 75, and its hard to cap parry btw (in my experience).

My and other's realistic reward suggestions:
Maat's cap +1: All stats+8 (NQ version has all stats+7) and/or reduced duration on the teleport.

Maat's Aketon/jacket: Movement speed encreased.

Maat's clothes A set of gear with the looks of Maat's that would be like a relic set. By looking at the Salavage gear, maat's gear doesnt have to be as good.
I'm very unsure if it would be a too high reward or not, matters of the stats I guess. Still would be cool walking around looking like a younger Maat
edit: when thinking about it, a Maat armor set would be for all jobs, so other job specific gear might be a better choice after all. Decent gear and a symbol would be enaugh for Maat's Clothes. On top of that, it would be lvl 75 gear, so it's limited (cant use it in lvl capped fights and such).

[Evion]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

How about... SE gives you a free subscription to FFXI from now on? I mean, they should realize that you paid them enough to waste your life away already!

[Sevv]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

Capped skills wont effect game at all which is good. And its a nice suggestion.
I think people have very different individual thoughts about a fair reward. I would like to hear more opinions of a great reward.
Personally capped skills wouldnt be a big reward, because most of your skills might have been capped allready. Even at with my 5th job to 75, I got parry skill 201. It would be nice to have it capped, but I think it will be when all my jobs is 75, and its hard to cap parry btw (in my experience).

I was talking about being able to cap merits 8/8 for every weapon in the game. Because say your like me, i.e. 8 sword 8 axe 4 eva. All jobs w/o sword or axe as a main weapon will be "gimped" at 75.

Parry is not too bad, grab a 75 rdm that has phalanx II. Change to your nin, go to Boyhada Tree. Use damage taken -% use parry knifes, and proceed to get beat on by korrigans, 2-3 works great.

My and other's realistic reward suggestions:
Maat's cap +1: All stats+8 (NQ version has all stats+7) and/or reduced duration on the teleport.
Maat's Aketon/jacket: Movement speed encreased.
Maat's clothes A set of gear with the looks of Maat's that would be like a relic set. By looking at the Salavage gear, maat's gear doesnt have to be as good.
I'm very unsure if it would be a too high reward or not, matters of the stats I guess. Still would be cool walking around looking like a younger Maat
edit: when thinking about it, a Maat armor set would be for all jobs, so other job specific gear might be a better choice after all. Decent gear and a symbol would be enaugh for Maat's Clothes. On top of that, it would be lvl 75 gear, so it's limited (cant use it in lvl capped fights and such).

I'm Sorry but maat's gear just loses it "sense" when you add in blue mage, corsair, and puppetmaster.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

To make it short.
Yes, a reward for taking all jobs to 75, would encourage more players to get more addicted to the game. Its a good point.

I don't think adding a reward for this would make the game itself more addicting, especially not in a good way.

If you make a reward for leveling all jobs to 75, it encourages players to level and level and level, and that's it. The kind of players that can make it to 75 on every single job? Level junkies. I disagree with encouraging more players to become level junkies.

At least with the rewards for Rank 10 / ZM completion / CoP completion / etc, a player has to level a job to also accomplish those goals. It's not like the continuous grind to 75, where you can focus on just one aspect of the game and totally ignore a large part of the total experience available.

[robinkle]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

How about... SE gives you a free subscription to FFXI from now on? I mean, they should realize that you paid them enough to waste your life away already!

This would fit right in a Thread about addiction/payment.
Honestly. This has nothing to do with this thread.

[robinkle]

Re: Reward after taking all jobs to 75?

I don't think adding a reward for this would make the game itself more addicting, especially not in a good way.

If you make a reward for leveling all jobs to 75, it encourages players to level and level and level, and that's it. The kind of players that can make it to 75 on every single job? Level junkies. I disagree with encouraging more players to become level junkies.

At least with the rewards for Rank 10 / ZM completion / CoP completion / etc, a player has to level a job to also accomplish those goals. It's not like the continuous grind to 75, where you can focus on just one aspect of the game and totally ignore a large part of the total experience available.

To prevent getting more level junkies in the game, how would the reward be?