Gimp Sub vs Pimp Gear

[Evion]

Hey All,

I REALLY wanted to have a RDM that could melee in between Casting. Given, it's not the greatest idea. And, my WAR sub is a gimp. But, I have all the best equipment a lv 22 RDM can wear. Won't anyone take that into account for PTs? Let me know!

Thanks,

Evion

[Mhurron]

Re: Gimp Sub vs Pimp Gear

Hi, I don't feel like playing the game properly, but I spent a whole lot of gil on gear that gives tiny benefits, even smaller when you consider I don't want to do the one thing that could give bigger boosts. Will everyone just ignore that and invite me anyway?

Stop gimping your subs.

[Sevv]

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You can ungimp your sub and melee hell i tanked on rdm to 40 lol.

[Murphie]

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I will not take it into account for parties. I want a healer/enfeebler/nuker, not another melee job. Those are common as dirt already.

[hongman]

Re: Gimp Sub vs Pimp Gear

No.

Well, depends on the party BUT I wouldnt recommend subbing WAR, especially if it gimp.

RDM can melee in *most* parties up to 30ish I'd say and not have a dramtic effect on performance, just dont expect to keep your TP. Until further on you are not *that* busy, and can afford a few swings here and there.

But doing so with a mage sub, subbing WAR gives too little benefit over the pro's of /whm or /blm. I'd also check with your party first, some people are incredibly ignorant and will scorn you for meleeing.

[Mhurron]

Re: Gimp Sub vs Pimp Gear

I also can't think of any 'best' gear for RDM thats worth much at that level.

I meleed at lvl 22 with a fully leveled /blm sub. If you play the game to its fullest you can do a lot.

[Evion]

Re: Gimp Sub vs Pimp Gear

Hi, I don't feel like playing the game properly, but I spent a whole lot of gil on gear that gives tiny benefits, even smaller when you consider I don't want to do the one thing that could give bigger boosts. Will everyone just ignore that and invite me anyway?

LOL!

I will not take it into account for parties. I want a healer/enfeebler/nuker, not another melee job. Those are common as dirt already.

Thanks for the info.

No.

Well, depends on the party BUT I wouldnt recommend subbing WAR, especially if it gimp.

RDM can melee in *most* parties up to 30ish I'd say and not have a dramtic effect on performance, just dont expect to keep your TP. Until further on you are not *that* busy, and can afford a few swings here and there.

But doing so with a mage sub, subbing WAR gives too little benefit over the pro's of /whm or /blm. I'd also check with your party first, some people are incredibly ignorant and will scorn you for meleeing.

Well, I guess its back to lv1 beating on wurms/bees in Bastok to get up my BLK/WHM huh? You guys say it like its not a week of my life gone.... Thanks!

[Mhurron]

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Well, I guess its back to lv1 beating on wurms/bees in Bastok to get up my BLK/WHM huh? You guys say it like its not a week of my life gone

It's called playing the game. If you look at it as a waste, don't play.

[Celeal]

Re: Gimp Sub vs Pimp Gear

At level 22, if you are not going to use Provoke, there isn't much reason to /WAR at that level. You can /WHM and melee just fine at level 22, virtually no different with /WAR at the same level.

[Murphie]

Re: Gimp Sub vs Pimp Gear

Seriously. Heck, I leveled WHM and BLM back in the day on my PLD, just so I'd have it for Warp and Teleports when I was doing things on my own. The subs are just handy to have around.

[hongman]

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Yup, part and parcel of RDM-ness I'm glad to say.

RDM is so versitile, hence so many applicable subs. WHM, BLM are pretty much must, NIN if you plan to solo, DRK for endgame...

What goes with that is while lvling NIN, you will need to have WAR as a sub so that has to be leveld to at least 18. While doing WAR to 18, you'll need MNK to at least 9.

So to just get subs for 1 job you actually end up leveling like up to 6 other jobs.

Get used to it (and highkly recommend getting them done all at once so they are out the way). If it all sounds like too much work, RDM isnt for you

[Aksannyi]

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Don't sub Warrior. Take it from someone who did just that for her first 25 levels of RDM. /slap <me> {Do you need it?}

That being said, you can sub WHM or BLM and melee for the first levels of your job. I meleed all the way until 51, when weapon swapping (staves) became necessary and there was no point in attempting to whack the mob between swaps. (Not to mention my staff skill was - and still is - horribly underleveled.)

Some people stop meleeing around the time they get Refresh, others sooner, and others, like me, when the elemental staves come into play. Obviously, if you're main healing don't melee. This seems like common sense but a lot of people don't realize why this is bad. Also, rest between fights, melee or not. Screw TP loss (yeah I know, Signet blah blah blah, it does wear), you need MP.

Don't level with a gimped sub though. Seriously. I had to melee as a 74 (going on 75) RDM on Greater Colibri one day, and the party leader said I could sub Warrior but I refused to bring a gimped sub. Using /blm wasn't as good for hitting the mob, but seriously, don't level with a gimped sub. Use it for soloing/farming/whatever, just not xping.

[hongman]

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Yar, I went 75RDM/23WAR while soling WS points just so I could use some other WS's....

[Aksannyi]

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Yeah, I've done that, I just wouldn't bring it to XP gimped. I should just finish leveling WAR for sub anyway at this point. It's at 26, what's 11 more levels?

[hongman]

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Hehe, that was the first time I had used Vorpal Blade....600+ on a Spider in Desert. Tickled the melee side of me again....

Anyways, Ill stop derailing.