FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

[Mhurron]

Re: FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

Mac vs PC

[Amele]

Re: FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

Not exactly nonsense. I'm a bit behind, but on double checking, it was actually not until August of last year did Apple release the driver for the build-in iSight camera and microphone, for example, with BootCamp Beta 1.1. (Incidentally, the drivers apparently weren't great, and they had to update them again in Beta 1.2 last month, along with revised drivers for its trackpad and such.)
No major PC vendor would distribute machine first and driver second--that's why I wrote driver support for Mac as a PC is sub-par compared to "real" PC's. It's logical, it's commonsense--and, it's not a criticism. -_-
On "rendering": If you mean vector processing (i.e. SIMD co-processor) performance, sure, it's possible (even likely) G4 wins over whatever Jarre had in his PC. CAD's should be able to take advantage of G4 class CPU's SIMD performance, if the application programmers wanted to. (Note: G4 isn't so much more optimized for graphics as for SIMD operations, however, if you want to be technical about it.)
On "bus": I don't believe Apple won on better system bus bandwidth, but it's too much digging for me at the moment. Let's just say I'm doubtful without giving supporting evidence for my assertion. =b

admittedly, I was using bus-chips as shorthand for all the off CPU co-processors in a modern Personal computer (pc and mac) including but not limited to: math-co processor, north bridge, south bridge, DMAC, etc. 'chips on bus' might've been more accurate, you're right: most PC architectures have faster system bus clocks than Apple architectures (not all of course).

and yes, on rendering I meant vector processing, given that the example was CAD-tool 'rendering'. I do not mean live graphics such as those used in most modern pc games, since the chokepoint on those is the GPU and not the CPU in a modern personal computer.

and it's actually quite routine for hardware to come out without proper driver support in the PC world, you just don't see dell or HP selling any of it. ^^

(so basically: yes, I agree with your stance on what makes a 'proper driver' now that I know more clearly what you mean.)

[Feba]

Re: FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

are drivers an issue with anything anymore? I haven't had to worry about drivers in like 4 years, with the exception of manually updating video card drivers, and that's only for certain games (I'm staring at you, mages ballad.)

Even linux is able to auto-detect most drivers nowadays.

[Mhurron]

Re: FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

are drivers an issue with anything anymore? I haven't had to worry about drivers in like 4 years, with the exception of manually updating video card drivers, and that's only for certain games (I'm staring at you, mages ballad.)
Even linux is able to auto-detect most drivers nowadays.

Drivers are the number one cause of system instability on desktop machines.

[Feba]

Re: FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

huh, didn't know that. I always thought the biggest cause of system problems on desktops was retarded users.

[Mhurron]

Re: FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

I said instability, not problems in general.

[Amele]

Re: FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

although you can probably blame retarded users for 80-90% of driver issues these days.

[Xeion]

Re: FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

Running game at 1600 x 1058

Is that even posible or have u mod it?

[Macht]

Re: FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

Is that even posible or have u mod it?

Likely he edited the registry file, something you can do on PC as well to up the resolution. We have threads on here that talk about how to do that.

[Xephar]

Re: FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

Is that even posible or have u mod it?

Well It let me set the games resolution to that int he FFXI config tool. However for the background textures to be upscaled I had to edit the registry.

[Manatra]

Re: FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

How did it go from
"FFXI looks great on my MAC!"
to
"MACs are PCs too."
"No, they're not, because 1001101011010101011101000101101"
and so on...?

Think about it this way, things could be worse. I mean, Godwin's Law hasn't been invoked yet. Though I will say some people in this thread have been a tad affected by a certain turtle neck wearing person's reality distortion field; poor souls.

[Achaicus]

Re: FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

So.. do better graphics make 'distant' objects in FFXI show up better? I mean, the same as binoculars would so that you see things that are farther from you? (though probably not as much as actual -or virtual- binoculars would)?

thx

[Mhurron]

Re: FFXI on a Mac = OWNAGE!

No, it just looks nicer, the objects you can see are clearer and more defined, Stuff like that.