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  • More NMs like Sozu!

    As most of us know, a few NMs were changed in the update to be force spawned by a low rate drop from local enemies and had their special items made 100% drop.


    Well, I for one would like to see SE do this to a lot more NMs.

    1) Ample reward for time invested: NM camping IMO is way to big of a time sink in most cases. Waiting hours upon hours for a very small chance to get a desirable item is NOT most people's idea of a good time. This is a game first and foremost, and I wish SE would wrap their heads around that concept. You get people to keep playing a game by making enjoyable, not with time sinks!

    2) It's good for the economy. Instead of rare/ex certain drops, this allows for people who want to put in the time and effort for an item to get it reliably and still sell it if they want to. This in turn leads to an ample supply for those who wish to buy it rather than get it themselves without getting price gouged. It also prevents RMT from hoarding/flooding and other shenanigans.



    What are your thoughts on this?
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    Re: More NMs like Sozu!

    Hello, welcome to four days ago, we hope you enjoy your stay.

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    • #3
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      I can't think of any more NMs that really "need" to be like this.

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      • #4
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        *jumps in the four days ago time machine* I wouldn't mind seeing Lizzy & the Emperor being made poppable.

        But then again, that's just because I'm too damn lazy to camp them for any extended period of time.

        On a serious note though, if any other NM was to get the Sozu treatment, I'd say a decent candidate would be Hoo Mjuu the Torrent (damned filesharing Yagudo...must be Swedish, look at that name!). Though I think he'd be more of a Pallas/Alky...easily poppable, with his same current crappy droprate.

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        • #5
          Re: More NMs like Sozu!

          >. > I don't actually recall seeing a thread like this, and I check in regularly. Either I was tired or it was a miss leading title o. O

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          • #6
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            Either way, competitors will still be around. Claiming normal mob will be the new battle ground now.
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            • #7
              Re: More NMs like Sozu!

              Not arguing that at all Jei. But you have to admit that a pop item dropped from "garbage" mobs gives you a much better chance at getting the NM. Even if there's so many people camping it that everybody is hovering over one spawn point each of the pop dropper.

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              • #8
                Re: More NMs like Sozu!

                Originally posted by Jei View Post
                Either way, competitors will still be around. Claiming normal mob will be the new battle ground now.
                Thing is they can't claim all those mobs. From what I've observed, even the chance of R/E dropping on Eastern Shadow has driven most of then the usual RMT out of Fei'Yin, though it could have also been Alona's seething hatred for all other living things camping against him, at least on my server.

                But even with the r/e mobs, there's also the new assault to consider. Seems the same compilation of NMs appear on the first five floors thus far. If that is consistant the higher you get up, that means you'll have a fair shot at getting your NMs and their drops. Over time, this will deflate the economy more and RMT will even lose their edge on "merc-ing" R/ENMs.

                I'm honestly waiting to see if these NMs pan out the way I think they will in Assault. Its clearly inspired by the other 100-Level Dungeons of the series, so targets would get more desireable on the way up.

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                • #9
                  Re: More NMs like Sozu!

                  I find at least one of your points kind of odd. There is no way that a monster can be both very easy(like Sozu) and remain a good money maker. At some point, all of the THFs are going to have their knives and there will be a very good stock left over for anyone who levels THF in the future. All the while, more knives enter the market. I give it less than 6 months before the worth of Thief's Knife drops under 10k.
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                  • #10
                    Re: More NMs like Sozu!

                    It seems to me like Sozu has become a bit of an irrelevance now, the drop rate for the pop item is so crappy you may as well have the thief knife drop right off the thf tonberries. If the thief knife is a 100% drop and Sozu is such an easy fight then once you have your pop item you're pretty much guaranteed the knife anyway.

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                    • #11
                      Re: More NMs like Sozu!

                      I wonder what's at the end of the Nyzule Isle assault... someone's bound to make it there eventually. It probably won't be for months, but it'll happen... can't wait to find out!
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                      • #12
                        Re: More NMs like Sozu!

                        SE is infamous with changing their minds on things, perhaps now is a good time to get the knife, less a change in the future prevents you from getting one at all.
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                        • #13
                          Re: More NMs like Sozu!

                          I sincerely doubt that is going to happen.

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                          • #14
                            Re: More NMs like Sozu!

                            Originally posted by Murphie View Post
                            I can't think of any more NMs that really "need" to be like this.
                            I'd say make Bune 100% with an item dropped from sheep in Valkurn D.




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                            • #15
                              Re: More NMs like Sozu!

                              I always fear your replies, Raydeus.

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