Data mine results

[Aeolus]

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Those are drops replacing the non-Rare/EX versions, as a way to stop RMT from camping and selling them.

RMT will claim the NM and sell to the highest bidder, hell they will even add Speed Belt to their list of "We'll get you this for a price" items to the shouts in whitegate. On something as good as speed belt I wouldnt bet on the RMT just giving up. They gave up on lizzy and emperor because it wasnt 20m+, I seriously doubt they will give up on SpeedBelt.

If they implement a way for the Speed Belt to be obtained thru BC,KS or Assault then the RMT would give up, which may or may not happen. Seens as its unknown what the means are yet of obtaining the Speeb Belt now I wouldnt get your hopes up on an easy KA kill for the belt(r/ex). If they keep up the quality of the update it may well be easy.

[Zempten]

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I really like the THF set's body and legs and feet for looks, but I'll admit I'm jealous of the WAR one ^ ^

Oh I can't wait for a chance for a THF knife and I mean a realistic chance of it ^ ^ Maybe strider boots rare/ex version as well ^ ^

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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umm no :p

So he's less purple, yeah, big difference.

RMT will claim the NM and sell to the highest bidder, hell they will even add Speed Belt to their list of "We'll get you this for a price" items to the shouts in whitegate. On something as good as speed belt I wouldn't bet on the RMT just giving up. They gave up on lizzy and emperor because it wasn't 20m+, I seriously doubt they will give up on Speed Belt.

Well, here's the thing, many - if not all - of the desirable MS are also now in this new Assault zone. If they're not randomly generated like the floors are, we'll see a sharp decline in the value of various items. There is a good chance at E-Bow or Vali Bow dropping from Eastern Shadow in both places he appears, E-Bow will go down.

Peacock Charm also used to be a high-value item, but was moved to BCNM and retains that value to an extent, these items are not moved to the BCNM and the NMs have an alternative means of being hunted now. BCNM does discourage RMT because it cannot be heavily exploited like NMs, but instancing also defeats RMT because they can't monopolize an area.

I think SE's ulterior motive of deflation is going to continue through these updates, the trend has been there since the beginning of ToA. The people who have hoarded away gil will hold sway for a little while longer, but eventually the value of gil could stand to go up as a result of all these massive changes while prices go down.

[Drive]

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editops double post.

[Drive]

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[Rai-Jin]

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So he's less purple, yeah, big difference.

no golden highlights, no red in it. makes some diffrence imo. no offensive i jus tdont think it looks the same :D

[tdh]

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IN all the data mining, has anybody found out how to get your hands on Drain II scroll? Quest? NPC bought? NM drop? Mob drop?

Any information on Dread Spikes scroll?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I'm just curious when we're going to get access to those remaining parts of the map on eastern section. SE has really been holding out on these smaller sections of the map.

[Karinya]

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I don't think dat mining can directly tell you where an item comes from. You get one when the server says you get one, and that's pretty much it.

The reason the client has a list of item stats and graphics is so that you don't have to download them from the server every time you look at something - the server just transmits the item ID code and the client fills in the details.

That's why there's only guessing about where most of the new stuff comes from; the rare/ex items with identical stats to previous rare, not ex items are the only things close to certain and then only because they were specifically mentioned in the update notes as being replacements for the previous drops from the old NMs.

[Wise Donkey]

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I like the Level 1 Great Axe - FINALLY!

[LyonheartLakshmi]

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Lionheart
[Great Sword] All Races
DMG:77 Delay:456
Lv.67 WAR/PLD/DRK

Ooh, I need to get one of these just to wear.

Octave Club (Rare/Ex)
[Club] All Races
DMG:11 Delay:264
Lv.63 WAR/MNK/WHM/BLM/RDM/THF/PLD/DRK/BST/BRD/RNG/SAM/NIN/DRG/SMN

If this is a Rare/Ex version of K. Club (it has the same dmg, same delay, and the name hints at the number 8), I don't think dual wielding Kraken / Octave will be as broken as some might think.
With DD jobs, player off hand K. Club for TP gain and mainhand a weapon that's better suited for actually dealing damage (higher base damage + better WS selection). PLDs could dual wield the two and spam Moonlight. But that's feeding mobs an aweful lot of TP at the same time. Will the increased MP regen from spammed Moonlights be enough to offset the extra TP moves from the mob?
I've never seen K. Club DRKs in action using their 2 hour to put a major hurting on HNMs. Do they need to mainhand an Axe and spam Rampage for a good part of their effectiveness? Or do they simply mainhand K. Club?

Plain Cap
[Head] All Races
DEF:12
Lv.35 WAR/MNK/RDM/THF/PLD/DRK/BST/BRD/SAM/NIN/DRG/BLU/COR

I'm guessing this is the new synthesis product when restoring Rusty Caps. Padded Caps are level 35. NPC buy back prices usually go up with the level of the item. So it would make sense that RMT fish bots would have a harder time making gil if Rusty Caps synth into a lower level piece of armor.

[Malacite]

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o-O holy **** that PROVES THE THEORY! Alexander IS the Alzadaal Ruins!

[Anaki]

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plain cap is lvl 35 to o.O

also that list is incomplete there is ALSO a new polearm!! and other stuff

[Caspian]

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About Octave club. Unless its a hidden effect, it doesn't seem to attack multiple times. I'm betting it does have a latent, but don't know what that is.

WAR's don't use Kclub offhand, they use Ridill. Kclub WAR isn't as good as you might think. I've never seen it in action, but something about a really low skill. Pretty much all prefer offhanding Ridill with axe mainhand.

I belive most DRK's just single wield Kclub. Maximizes souleater's effect.

As for RMT selling the opportunity for speed belt, I'd be impressed. Drop rate is terrible, not near as good as stuff they had been doing like that, like Byakko's Haidate and some abjurations. Though, the biggest reason to camp KA, was the d. cloth drops. They were dependable and a more consistent form of money.

[BurningPanther]

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Actually, WAR outdoes DRK in both club and sword skill. No real reason why either job would prefer Ridill or Kraken club over each other.

I dunno, I'd need a WAR or DRK with both to weigh in.

As for Octave club, I have no idea as to it's worth, but the term "octave" has a number of meanings, first of which is a measurement in music, the eighth degree of a given tone. That or the proceeding meanings might have something to do with it's possible hidden effect.

And it better have a hidden effect, else it just won't be worth camping Lord of Onzozo.

Dictionary.com for the win, by the way.