Any right?

[Eohmer]

Re: Any right?

Well with regard to the OP calling the other player noob, that other player fits the bill

Taking the High road is fine and dandy, but you shouldn't be a door mat either. Once people think they can get away with doing something they'll keep doing it. Maybe now he'll (Godswarriror) will think twice before tell some one to move from his spot.

I HIGHLY doubt this Godswarrior will be any nicer about this sort of situation because the OP was the way she was. Especially if he's a "noob", like you say.

[Freedan]

Re: Any right?

I HIGHLY doubt this Godswarrior will be any nicer about this sort of situation because the OP was the way she was. Especially if he's a "noob", like you say.

Thats fine if he doesn't learn to behave himself. Just remember for every asshat in game, there will always be a bigger asshat down the road. Hopefully he'll meet some one that isn't so nice.

[Murphie]

Re: Any right?

What is that person who isn't so nice going to do? Call him a name?

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: Any right?

There wasn't a time when I actually stole a mob they were planning to pull, infact every time I took a crab I could always see another scuttling about somewhere.

But what did the party see after they finished off a mob? Did they ever have to stop and wait for a pop, or were they able to continue chaining, only limited by the constraints of their own abilities. If the party had to stop and wait for pops, then that means you had some impact on their (even if it was minimal) on their party.

How would you feel if you had then gone on to your party, and a few minutes into it, someone of a higher level showed up and started to solo on some of the same mobs your party was exp'ing on? I'm not saying this guy acted properly. But I can empathize with him.

If I could of handled mandys in yuhtunga I would of done but they rip through my shadows. So any opinions?

I would think this solution would be just as bad. Camps just outside of Kazham were even more crowded than Qufim from my experiences.

If you choose to solo in spots that are popular camps for exp parties, you should expect these kinds of responses. Out of 6 people, 2 of them will probably be quite understanding, 3 of them will be unhappy but keep their complaints to themselves, and 1 of them will be vocally abusive. It's simply a matter of human nature combined with statistics. It might not be right, but it should be no surprise.

[Malacite]

Re: Any right?

Seriously, I would have gone after their EXP mobs too, just to give the leader a hard time, the jack ass. And if the PT has a problem? Tell them to take it up with him.

[Necropolis]

Re: Any right?

But what did the party see after they finished off a mob? Did they ever have to stop and wait for a pop, or were they able to continue chaining, only limited by the constraints of their own abilities. If the party had to stop and wait for pops, then that means you had some impact on their (even if it was minimal) on their party.

How would you feel if you had then gone on to your party, and a few minutes into it, someone of a higher level showed up and started to solo on some of the same mobs your party was exp'ing on? I'm not saying this guy acted properly. But I can empathize with him..

Well it would be different if she moved in on thier camp, but as she stated, she was there first soloing, and the party showed up after. So if anything, they should of been curtious to her camp. Most times someone soloing for a little exp while lfp and another party can share the lower areas, but I doubt that they put any consideration to what they pulled like she did.

She may not have taken the high road, but from what I can see he didn't really prompt a proper response. If he said something like "Hey, your soloing is killing our chains, do you mind exp on the xxx mobs so that we can have yyy mobs?", it would be a different manner. Then if she responded with smartass comments she would be the rude one.

I had a similar incident in quifim the other day, I was duoing with a friend of mine, we were 20ish sam and drg and a party with a PL moves right on top of us and decides to kill out exp. I probably didn't take the high road either but I logged in my friends account and self-PLed for a couple hours, any mobs I couldn't claim I had the PL kill. No consideration to my exp, so I had no sympathy for thiers. Best part was when thier PL got killed by a banshee, and the party wiped. I had to stop a moment and do a /clap, followed by /point, and finished with a /laugh

When I self-PL or just go out exp with a friend or two I tend to stay away from common exp camps, but when we got to qufim there were 3 people in the zone, and all the camps were free. I don't make a habit of hurting other peoples exp, but hey, no consideration for me, then don't expect any in return.

[fallenintoshadows]

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I agree I didn't take the high road, but I wouldn't say I exactly took the low one. I could of started to take all their mobs out of spite but I didn't.
In response to Lyon, they should of had plenty of mobs to chain off, it wasn't often I took a crab after they appeared and seeing as the place we were at can normally fit at least two parties comfortably I can't see why their party and just me would be any different. I was skilling my ninjutsu at the same time so I wasn't exactly killing the mob fast either.

[Eohmer]

Re: Any right?

I wouldn't say I exactly took the low one.

You called him a name... and you did it twice.

How is that not taking the low road?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Ok so I was on Ninja, Lv/31 and looking for a party, I got bored of sitting in Jeuno so I thought I'd go to qufim and solo some crabs. After awhile of me being there a party arrived, so I started to take Giga leeches and worms and only crabs if I had to because that's what they were exping on. One of the people from the party kept /checking me, which is fair enough but in stupid amounts it does tend to get annoying but I ignored it, and carried on. Finally I get a pt invite and Im just healing up before I leave but the next thing I know is the guy from the qufim party is /telling me. Here is the delightful convo I had with him:

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I ended up blacklisting after my last /tell to him and left to meet my party. Did he actually have any right to tell me to leave? There wasn't a time when I actually stole a mob they were planning to pull, infact every time I took a crab I could always see another scuttling about somewhere. If I could of handled mandys in yuhtunga I would of done but they rip through my shadows. So any opinions?

You handled the solo aspect rather professionally, most soloists would have taken the approach you did to fighting mobs as to not slow down the EXP of the PTs surrounding them. However, there will almost always be some stuck-up jerk who thinks just because he's in a PT that his needs for EXP are greater than yours.

I EXP on Hellmines as BST in GC, not unlike your level as NIN, there's not many other places to go (and as the OP claimed, there really is no better place than Qufim for his/her level). Sure, I could go the Bost. Ob. underneath Sandy, but its crawling with the undead and I live in the yellow HP. There's undead in GC too, but you can work around them better in that basement area.

So I'm pulling bombs, they're not something I like to get up close and personal with becuase, well, they're bombs. I need a sturdy, high HP mob to take them on. Beetles are by far the best options. I try to fall back on my pet jugs as I can, but I need beetles to take the brunt of the damage. I try to keep the mob consumption low for the sake of the PTs

But no, I get yelled at anyway. Apparently I grabbed some mob a PT was about to pull and, well, I've got a bomb on my tail, can you blame me?

Apparently, they can. They do. God forbid I save my own butt here. So this guy in this PT /shouts "Hey bst, f*** off, eh?"

I've reached the point where I stop giving such comments a reply. I said nothing to him. I finished my bomb, and went to go rest HP/MP to prepare to log out to help friends with Diabolos on Kitten.

But before I did that, I took the time to file a GM report. The guy was using inappropriate language in shout and harassing me. This does not please GMs, so I made them aware of his behavior. And then I blacklisted the player, this also doubles as my "People who won't be meritting with my BRD" list.

As I began to log out, I did a /check on the guy who was yelling at me.

Aw, a DRG.

And I /comfort him before I log

Moral of the story: Blacklist jerks and report them for harassing you. Allow the Blacklist to also be your S***list.

[Eohmer]

Re: Any right?

You handled the solo aspect rather professionally

Hardly. I wouldn't say name calling is handling it professionally.

[fallenintoshadows]

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You called him a name... and you did it twice.

How is that not taking the low road?

I could of done a lot worse, I could of changed to my war and wiped their area of crabs. That's what I call taking the low road, when you go out of your way to annoy them. I was as rude to him as he was to me, I don't think "smartass" is that bad and maybe I shouldn't have called him names but I did try to reason with him before I called him a "noob".

Omgwtfbbqkitten: Thanks for the advice, I think next time (no doubt I will have another run in with a similar player) I'll just ignore them and black list them if they still don't get the hint I don't care ^_^

[Drive]

Re: Any right?

I could of done a lot worse, I could of changed to my war and wiped their area of crabs. That's what I call taking the low road, when you go out of your way to annoy them. I was as rude to him as he was to me, I don't think "smartass" is that bad and maybe I shouldn't have called him names but I did try to reason with him before I called him a "noob".

You asked for peoples opinions and you are getting them. I feel the same way most people in this thread feels. You weren't as bad as the guy you are ranting against but you sure are trying. Doesn't matter that you "could have done worst" because you already did the damage and didn't handle it as nicely as you could.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Any right?

Hardly. I wouldn't say name calling is handling it professionally.

Read what you quoted, I said the "soloing aspect." The NIN tried to avoid taking all the PTs mobs, killing of mob pets is a big way of doing that. When the NIN was met with hostility and told where to EXP, the player in question should expect to recieve hostility in kind. That may not be professional, but it should be expected when you treat people rudely.

In any event, its just better to ingore the jerk than to say anything, which is why I've stopped coversing with with people who choose to be hostile and boss me around.

I get so tired of this mentality that we should always strive to be nice to people on the internet when the people in question are totally rude and bossy little brats who think they own everything. No, that's just letting yourself get walked all over.

Turning the other cheeck doesn't mean you have to take shit from people, just ignore them and move on. To the fools, their folly. Its a waste of time to try and correct them and teach them to be nice, let their parents worry about teaching them morals.

[Eohmer]

Re: Any right?

In any event, its just better to ingore the jerk than to say anything, which is why I've stopped coversing with with people who choose to be hostile and boss me around.

That I agree with.

[BurningPanther]

Re: Any right?

I figure 'shadows didn't start purposefully swiping their exp mobs, so she handled it rather professionally. Sure, the name calling wasn't terribly tactful, but it was hardly debasing herself.