How to leave a party without saying "This PT sucks?"

[Murphie]

Re: How to leave a party without saying "This PT sucks?"

I don't think anyone is claiming otherwise, Celeal. I always try and make the party work before giving up on it. That seems pretty standard. I'm sure there are some folks who after the first or second fight just leave, but I honestly do try and "fix" things if I can before calling it a day.

[Celeal]

Re: How to leave a party without saying "This PT sucks?"

I don't know, I guess I had bad luck in my recent parties: Sometimes it has nothing to do with party performance... like arguments, people cannot get along and throw insults at each others; or sometimes like a main healer needed to go and found a mage for replacement, but as the replacement joined the party, he refused to main heal or even backup heal (even the job has all the tools required for healing)...

[Murphie]

Re: How to leave a party without saying "This PT sucks?"

Those instances are also perfectly reasonable times to say "This isn't working" and leave.

[Kholdstare]

Re: How to leave a party without saying "This PT sucks?"

It'll never get to 75 unless SE fixes what you're hoping they will and in most cases with recent updates, SE came up with solutions players didn't always consider themselves.

Well, there's not any one certain thing that I want them to change (though plenty of things they COULD change.)

I just want BST to not be SE's bastard child.

[Akashimo]

Re: How to leave a party without saying "This PT sucks?"

For those of us not enlighten on the ways of BST what is the fix you're refering to. Thats if its not the auto despawn thing for leave or charm rates.

On topic:
To fake d/cing, if everyone knows the party sucks but don't want to say disband before someone fake d/c, I wouldn't hold it against the person to d/c just to give the signal we should now before wasting anymore time trying to fix and still phailing. I have had parties wishing someone would d/c just so we can bail out and not invite a rep @.@

[Murphie]

Re: How to leave a party without saying "This PT sucks?"

If everyone thinks the party sucks, then someone should just cowboy up and say "Hey, guys, this isn't working is it?" thus getting to the heart of the problem and not wasting any more time.

[Akashimo]

Re: How to leave a party without saying "This PT sucks?"

Myself <.< >.> I usually like stating it flat out once or twice then subtley restate it until something happens. Most of the parties I've had doing that, one of those barely anyone, even dd, lfp so its kind of hard to suggest disbanding cause of the lack of lfp people and invites for even the popular jobs.

[Murphie]

Re: How to leave a party without saying &quot;This PT sucks?&quot;

It's not your responsibility to get parties for other people, though. If you think the party should disband, there isn't any reason to stick with it.

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: How to leave a party without saying &quot;This PT sucks?&quot;

To fake d/cing, if everyone knows the party sucks but don't want to say disband before someone fake d/c, I wouldn't hold it against the person to d/c just to give the signal we should now before wasting anymore time trying to fix and still phailing.

I find faking d/c to be rude, and take offense at it. It's dishonest, and make people waiting around just to avoid saying "I'm leaving" is slimy, IMO.

[Spiritbear]

Re: How to leave a party without saying &quot;This PT sucks?&quot;

How about this idea for leaving a pt. I was pting as my Whm and just let the pt die. Then told everyone I was going to hp and log so they decided to disband. Now I did this because the pt leader decided to move the pt from the Oasis in the dunes (where we were getting great exp 100-200 a fight and the occational chain) to the secret beach at lvl 15. When we did the first fight it took so long I was out of mp and half the party died, I suggested that we move back to the Oasis and continue the pt there. He told me "No way Noob exp is better here", I kindly explained to him that if I'm going to be out of mp after every fight then there it would not be better exp. He called me a Noob again, we got everyone raised and we did fight two with the same outcome. So when everyone was raise I made the suggestion again, he said No and called me a noob again. Now a little back info on the situation, I was still fairly new to the game but I had already lvled War to 21 and Mnk to 13 so I had my subjob quest already. He on the other hand was a 15 war with no sub and still wearing a subligar. So commenced my pt exiting strategy. It was awesome, I appologized to everyone and hp only to get an invite about 2 min later which I accepted and had a great exp party.

[BurningPanther]

Re: How to leave a party without saying &quot;This PT sucks?&quot;

How about this idea for leaving a pt. I was pting as my Whm and just let the pt die. Then told everyone I was going to hp and log so they decided to disband. Now I did this because the pt leader decided to move the pt from the Oasis in the dunes (where we were getting great exp 100-200 a fight and the occational chain) to the secret beach at lvl 15. When we did the first fight it took so long I was out of mp and half the party died, I suggested that we move back to the Oasis and continue the pt there. He told me "No way Noob exp is better here", I kindly explained to him that if I'm going to be out of mp after every fight then there it would not be better exp. He called me a Noob again, we got everyone raised and we did fight two with the same outcome. So when everyone was raise I made the suggestion again, he said No and called me a noob again. Now a little back info on the situation, I was still fairly new to the game but I had already lvled War to 21 and Mnk to 13 so I had my subjob quest already. He on the other hand was a 15 war with no sub and still wearing a subligar. So commenced my pt exiting strategy. It was awesome, I appologized to everyone and hp only to get an invite about 2 min later which I accepted and had a great exp party.

Kinda mean, but that was funny. I think it'll teach the other members of the team to speak up as well if things aren't going poorly, it might just get them all killed. =P

[Theyaden]

Re: How to leave a party without saying &quot;This PT sucks?&quot;

How about this idea for leaving a pt. I was pting as my Whm and just let the pt die. Then told everyone I was going to hp and log so they decided to disband. Now I did this because the pt leader decided to move the pt from the Oasis in the dunes (where we were getting great exp 100-200 a fight and the occational chain) to the secret beach at lvl 15. When we did the first fight it took so long I was out of mp and half the party died, I suggested that we move back to the Oasis and continue the pt there. He told me "No way Noob exp is better here", I kindly explained to him that if I'm going to be out of mp after every fight then there it would not be better exp. He called me a Noob again, we got everyone raised and we did fight two with the same outcome. So when everyone was raise I made the suggestion again, he said No and called me a noob again. Now a little back info on the situation, I was still fairly new to the game but I had already lvled War to 21 and Mnk to 13 so I had my subjob quest already. He on the other hand was a 15 war with no sub and still wearing a subligar. So commenced my pt exiting strategy. It was awesome, I appologized to everyone and hp only to get an invite about 2 min later which I accepted and had a great exp party.

While I can understand wanting to get even with the pt lead, did the other members you let die do anything to deserve it? If a party is pissing you off the answer is not to MPK the party but to indicate your leaving and leave it once the current fight is over. What you did is no better than firing a ranged attack at the nearest boggy and running it to the party in the middle of a fight.
If the pt lead calls me a noob he's lost the courtesy of the 10-15 minute warning before I disband, but mpking the other 4 people was over the top. Its not the fault of other pt members that they are willing to deal with a lower xp party but they all have to wait for weakness to wear off ru-use food items, and if the pt did disband wait for another invite which as a whm is not hard to come by if your a dragoon or dark it may be a different story.

[Murphie]

Re: How to leave a party without saying &quot;This PT sucks?&quot;

Didn't you guys read? The guy was wearing a subligar. That's good enough reason to let him die right there.

[BurningPanther]

Re: How to leave a party without saying &quot;This PT sucks?&quot;

Didn't you guys read? The guy was wearing a subligar. That's good enough reason to let him die right there.

And letting the guy with the subligar lead(or even wear it), makes you an accomplice.

An offense also punishable by death.

[Clever Ninja]

Re: How to leave a party without saying &quot;This PT sucks?&quot;

And that's why I don't party with jobs with no subs anymore. 99% of the time I have to deal with stupidity, like today.

I'm on my Hume 19RDM, partying at the Secret Beach and the other 2 pt members who were 20 decided to leave, and 1 decided to log, so we were gonna disband. To aleve some boredom, I told the remaining DRK/WAR and WHM(new and basically a crappy healer, had to pick up his slack) that I'd solo a Snipper which checked EM to me. DRK says ok, he'll voke if I go below 25% hp. I start fighting, the WHM starts curing me. Whatever. Then he casts Banish. I was gonna say whatever again, but he did it to a Pugil. Awesome. He stands there and dies, and I make a break for the Gustav Tunnel zone since I cast Cure on him before death. Of course, knowing my luck, a Banshee was RIGHT there at the Cave, and 2 seconds later I'm dead. Thankfully I didnt delevel, otherwise I'd REALLY be pissed.