Tamas or Rajas? argh!!!!

[Mog]

Ok. I just finished promathia missions and I'm having a really hard time deciding so maybe somebody here has some advice. I'm currently a 75 blm and I'm eyeing the tamas ring for the -3 enmity, mp, and of course, the intelligence. On the otherside, the rajas ring would be indispensible when it comes to my samurai, which is going to probably be the only melee job I take to 75. ( only level 37 atm ).

I already got the bushinomimi for my samurai, so I was thinking I'd get the tamas ring as a reward for my blm. I'm also going to level summoner up in the future too.

What should I do? /panic

[Vyuru]

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I'd say go for the Rajas ring, there are other rings you can get for your magely jobs, and possibly merits, that would make up for the benefits of a Tamas ring, and also, as I understand it +skill is more important than the +int/mnd you get from the ring, so tossing a merit or two into +elemental skill would go aways farther than +int.

The +mp would be nice for your summoner, but I don't think it'd be needed.

Melee wise, there seems to me at least, far fewer really good rings. +str, dex, and tp AND subtle blow, that's just too good to pass up in my mind, there is no other ring that offers anything close to it that I know of.

And don't forget that the +5 dex at 75 also gives you +2.5acc, not much, but the str/dex also give you very small +acc/att benefits, not much at all, but they are still there, whereas I do not think that +int/mnd gives you any secondary benefits.

[Raydeus]

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Rajas, no matter how you see it you can get the Tamas' boost using equip macros as a mage.

[Feenicks]

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If you play any melee job to 75 at all, you should get the Rajas. There's no other ring that can even come close to the Rajas Ring for melee jobs. On the other hand, if you're only ever going to play mage jobs then get the Tamas Ring.

I got the Tamas because I only have WHM at 75 and am taking BLM to 75. I don't think I'll ever take a melee job to 75 so Tamas it is. If you SERIOUSLY are going to take SAM to 75 then get the Rajas because it's seriously irreplaceable for melee. But if you're not, or even if you do you'll be on your BLM anyway, then just get the Tamas because, even though the stats are not as good as Rajas, it's still a really nice ring to have.

[Gobo]

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Honestly, its really not for us to tell you. You are going to have people who tell you Tamas is better, and others that Rajas is better. Its really going to be up to your play style. There is an Aegis owner on my Server who picked a Tamas Ring for her BLM, even though that Sattva Ring is the tanking ring. All 3 rings are great in they're own right, all 3 serve there purpose of being the ideal ring for the type they are. Are you going to be playing BLM and SMN more? If so, pick tamas. Do you plan on playing SAM a lot after you finish lvling it? If so pick Rajas. There's nothing worse than picking a ring, then letting it rot because you never play a job that can use it. Look at a ring as a sum of the parts, not as individual stats.


(And if you are wondering how Tamas, Rajas, and Sattva are related...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guna , the second part)

[Neomage]

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I would get Rajas just because their is no ring in the world that offers both DEX and STR in the same slot. You'll never use MND and INT at the exact same time, so just swap out gear, but you'll always be using DEX and STR as the same time if playing melee.

The +MP and - Enimity on Tanamas is nice, but it's not nearly as beneficial as everything on Rajas combined. Hell, even if I wasn't going to level any melee jhobs I'd take Rajas just for RDM soro.

[Ka1'E1]

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I had the same problem about a month ago. Got the Rajas and haven't looked back since. Most of the arguments I got were the same. You just can't replace a Rajas, Tamas sure you can in like 3 rings, but you will never need them at the same time.

[Zempten]

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How much longer will you play the game?

Will you only be leveling just SAM as a meele? Your REALLY not ever going to level any other meele job?

If you check, there are more meele jobs then mages, so if you plan on playing for longer then I'd suggest the Rajas. However, if you are really going to just play SAM and BLM forever then the choice is all yours, 50/50.

[Mog]

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How much longer will you play the game?

Will you only be leveling just SAM as a meele? Your REALLY not ever going to level any other meele job?

As far as I can tell, samurai is the only melee job that I plan on taking to 75. Maybe ninja too, because of it's usefulness. So yeah, you guys have me pretty convinced that the rajas ring is a lot more useful. As far as tamas goes, I can always get snow ring. 30 MP really doesn't matter for me. I'm a tarutaru. 5 mind is lol for my blm. And as far as -enmity goes, I can get that through merits.

Since dex and str are the most useful stats for samurai and there's no ring that comes close, it seems that the rajas ring would be the most useful for me. Moreover, there's more melee jobs than mage jobs. (onry 4 mage jobs, lots more melee jobs) Thanks for the input guys. I think rajas is the way to go too.

[DakAttack]

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Get the Sattva ring and level a Paladin!

[Malacite]

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Well, you already have the Bushi right? Why not go that extra mile and take the Rajas? Both are tailor made for SAM, and the Rajas is usefull to more jobs over all than the Tamas is.

[Jei]

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If you're already using BLM to do end game in a regular basis, Tamas will benefit you a lot more.

Rajas is most appealing if you have Ninja, since Jin uses both STR and DEX. Most other jobs will only benefit from STR for WS. The store TP can help you hit 100 TP in 1 less swing, not that big of a deal.

I picked Rajas, I don't regret it.
Even if I picked Tamas, I wouldn't regret it either considering how much I'm using BLM for my LS.

[BurningPanther]

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On the one hand, you have the Tamas, which gives you you your favorite mage stats all on one ring. It's like equipping an Aqua ring, Snow ring, and Ether ring all on one finger(at level 75).

On the other hand, the stats are the Rajas ring are unique, you won't find them on any other ring.

[Kirsteena]

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I'm intending on levelling a melee job, but only for me - for the ls I am a mage pure and simple. I have no regrets getting the Tamas Ring.

[Vyuru]

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Well, I think you should also take into account what gear you plan on wearing for each job.

I don't know what gear is obtainable for you, or what you're aiming for, but just eyeballing the blm gear...

Alot of the AF/relic+1 for blm looks nice, I don't know what the standard blm wears in exp/HNM activities, so I can't really compare it to what you'd use, but it is nice.

Looking at the Salvage armor sets, the Morrigan set has +25int/mnd, -4 enmity, +10 magic accuracy/attack bonus, +90mp, full set gives magic attack bonus+, that looks pretty good to me, and if you had that, the Tamas ring would be a nice addition, but not really essential. When you have +25 mnd in your main armor slots alone, not taking into account accessories, an additional +5 int/mnd isn't quite so wow anymore.

Both rings are good, both are unique, it IS a tough decision since you only get one

But I'd look at your planned gear setups and ask yourself which would benefit you more, if your blm has a ton of +mnd/int I'd be more inclined to go with a Rajas ring. If your sam has a ton of +str/dex.... I'd still be more inclined to go with the Rajas ring, you just can't get subtle blow and store tp like that on any other piece of armor.

But then I primarily play melee jobs (hey, I'm a dragoon, all other jobs are just subs ) so that might bias my opinion more towards the melee aspect a bit.

EDIT:

I thought of a better way to put that bias comment. My focus is on melee jobs, they are the jobs that I have put the most research into, so I can easily understand the benefits of the Rajas ring.

The Tamas ring is also nice, but I have not researched what gear I'd be wearing as a blm, or mage, at your level. I've played rdm but only up to 45, my mage experiance ends there, so I can see the benefits of a Tamas ring, but I may not fully understand them.