Lacking Diversity.

[LadyKiKi]

Re: Lacking Diversity.

Look, if the creators of the game would give me a reason to equip all 5 pieces of my DRG JSE (The level 68-70 pieces) I will run around it in full time because it's all black and I nearly double as a NIN. . But when I solo I cannot wear it because it slows me down in all possible ways.
(stats are, if you're wondering)

Dragon Finger Gauntlets
HP +8
Resist vs. Lightning +10
Resist vs. Water +10
Breath Damage Taken -4%

Dragon Greaves
HP +13
Resist vs. Wind +10
Resist vs. Earth +10
Breath Damage Taken -4%

Dragon Mask
HP +10
Resist vs. Light +10
Resist vs. Dark +10
Breath Damage Taken -4%

Dragon Cuisses
HP +11
Resist vs. Fire +10
Resist vs. Ice +10
Breath Damage Taken -4%

Dragon Mail
HP +12
Resist vs. Fire +10
Resist vs. Ice +10
Resist vs. Wind +10
Resist vs. Earth +10
Resist vs. Lightning +10
Resist vs. Water +10
Resist vs. Light +10
Resist vs. Dark +10
Breath Damage Taken -9%

There is nothing really I would use the armor for, but damn it looks cool. Seriously.

[Jei]

Re: Lacking Diversity.

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This is actually one of the reasons why I've stopped playing FFXI. I love the look of the characters on games, and FFXI just isn't cutting it.
Does this also mean that all of the good armor can be used by all of the jobs? That's pretty lame.

If you quit just because some unknown person looks like you, that's not a really good reason. Any online games have limited resources. You will run into people that look like you eventually. FFXI may be easier to notice this because of the PS2 limitations. But still, that doesn't make the game less fun.

When you play stand alone RPG, like FF12 for example. You know, millions of other players around the world will also look exactly like you. Except they are not playing with you. So what's the big deal?

If you're not having fun then by all means, quit.

[Omni]

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play more.
its not fair to complain about a game at lv. 20....

[Tirjasdyn]

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Um...there are other problems...

On Hades..bastok is loosing conquest...now we can't buy anything in the stores. It's really bad as all us low level are wearing subligars because you can only get leather armor through ah at 3-4 times the cost of the town merchants.

It sucks big time...we need more bastok conquest points.

[eticket109]

Re: Lacking Diversity.

Um...there are other problems...
On Hades..bastok is loosing conquest...now we can't buy anything in the stores. It's really bad as all us low level are wearing subligars because you can only get leather armor through ah at 3-4 times the cost of the town merchants.
It sucks big time...we need more bastok conquest points.

Farm.

Get Signet. Run around killing EP stuff for seals, crystals, xp and drops.

Sell stuff and buy gear off the AH. Granted, the early stuff costs a bit more on the AH then it used to, but it's still easy enough to buy.

If you're around bastok you can farm the bees and sheep. Even the Quadavs and lizards have some decent drops.

If all else fails, do quests. A lot of early quests have gil or armor as rewards.

[Omni]

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its apart of the game... im from san doria and well san doria on remora blows big round things.

ill give you the fact that this game isnt easy on new players. it doesnt hand much to you. it takes some time, effort and thinking.

research some quests on the many various ffxi databases. I'll help you out with a few that i use: ffxiclopedia.org and ffxi.somepage.com. a lot of armor can be quested and stuff in those lower levels. if an armor is not on sale in bastok, do what i did when i first started. walk your ass to san doria and buy stuff. if you are lvl 20, get your chocobo and just ride all over the place if you have to. if its too much work for you, or you dont have the patience, well... i dont know what to say. this game has never really been about instant gratification. more so in these lower levels. you've got to earn your stripes.

learn how to make gil. theres many ways to make gil and its not that difficult. you can buy armor on the ah if you cant find something at the npc.

i dont want to sound harsh but no one will feel sorry for you because you cant make way for yourself. bastok losing conquest is hardly a set back.


taru edit: what eticket said.

taru edit II: im sure the OP forgot about this thread already but I wanted to show the younger players that not everything looks the same. I mean what game doesnt look the same at lv. 20? I've played wow and well everything looks the same too at that lvl. anyhow, once you start progressing the armor begins to get specialized. you should usually be able to tell who is what with their armor and weapon combinations. mages are a bit more difficult but you should be able to tell most the time.

if you go here: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Jobs
it shows you all the jobs in their trade mark artifact gear. now full AF ends at lv. 60, at 75 most players probably only use a few pieces from their af since better armor is available then. Anyhow, I was just trying to show you that not everyone looks like they only wear leather/beetle/blacktunic forever.

[Tirjasdyn]

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Um..I'm not asking people to feel sorry, I'm asking them to conquest more.
I'm lv 8...I'm working my ass off, and I'm doing the best I can to get up to rank two so I can trade all these dang crystals. So nice of you to assume I'm not.
But it is a problem for low levels when you can't get gear for your level. Conquest is a contributing factor in this that takes everyone's effort.
Walk your ass to jeuno at level 8? don't make me laugh.

[neighbortaru]

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Walk your ass to jeuno at level 8? don't make me laugh.

why not? it's not particularly difficult.
Or as an alternative, make a mule in the other nations so you have all the NPC shops covered regardless of conquest.

[eticket109]

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There is nothing from conquest that is necessary at low levels. The only thing controlling an area really does is provide free home points and allow you to recharge signet if you're out for a long time. As long as you get signet, you still get CP whether you control the region or not. Conquest shouldn't have much impact on gear access though.

As far as Jeuno, there isn't really any need to go there til 20 anyway. As far as getting there... if you take it slow and watch your surroundings, you can get to Jeuno at lvl 1. I've taken a couple mules there. Heck, I unlocked a mog locker in Aht Urghan with a lvl 5 mule... (but I had powders and oils for some of it).

[Omni]

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well, conquest has nothing to do with lacking diversity. which is what this thread is about. at any rate, it was my mistake to assume you were around the same lvl as the op.

eticket answered your question pretty much. farm. you should have no trouble farming beehive chips and selling those. they are 12k on my server in bastok. 1 stack should give you enough to buy that armor you want for lvl. 8. again, conquest is not that big of a deal if you can get a form of income going.

taru edit: what eticket said again. conquest does not affect, or should not affect you from getting gear if you can raise gil for yourself. which you probably should begin doing.

[Icemage]

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Hold the music here.

Yes, it's a pain in the butt being a new player. You don't have a lot of resources, you don't have a ton of friends, you don't have the ability to farm much.

This doesn't mean conquest is a problem. Here's a news flash: you earn more conquest points when your nation is behind in conquest. Your Signet lasts longer, and you earn extra conquest points when you win battles in zones that your nation does not control.

The only things that are annoying when your nation is behind in conquest are:

(a) There are some conquest point items that are unavailable unless your nation is 1st or 2nd.
(b) It costs you more to use Outpost Teleportion to places your nation does not control.
(c) It costs you more to change allegiances if the nation you're changing to is higher in conquest.

At level 8, none of these issues apply since you're not going to be high enough rank to see any of the conquest-restricted items, you can't do outpost Teleportion to anywhere, and you're hardly likely to want or need to change allegiances that soon.

If you're having issues affording early newbie gear, I would recommend looking into Fishing. It's a solid and respectable way to make money without worrying about your level.


Icemage

[Celeal]

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I had often seen many players have alternative set of outfits when they are walking in towns, just for fashion or looking cool. When they are in parties, they switch to another set of gear for partying...

With 5 visible slots for clothing (head, body, hands, legs, feet) and 2 visible slots for weapon (main hand, off hand), diversity is pretty good as your level moves up. Plus S-E often introduce new gears and weapons from time to time.

[Tirjasdyn]

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taru edit: what eticket said again. conquest does not affect, or should not affect you from getting gear if you can raise gil for yourself. which you probably should begin doing.

Perhaps I'm just not that good at the game but I have a fairly firm grasp of the English language. When you loose merchandise from the local stores because you are loosing conquest, i'd call that:

1. lack of diverse equipment since all you can buy are subligars and brass harness and robes.

2. lack of ability to buy equipment at the level it is needed for.

I farmed and got enough to buy a full set of lv 7 leather from the market place, which I price earlier that day. I head to the market and find it gone. I check around check conquest. Bastok is now third on Hades. Crap..so I head to AH. Oh look every piece is now 3000-4000 higher than market prices. Joy..so I farm....I'm almost 9th. by the time I hit 11th I'll have enough for 7th lv gear. I feel special.

I can't make it past Kondast highlands without dying. Seems like I miss the higher lv quadav just over that last hill every time. two blows dead. yeah me.

So lets review: Technically I will still get the gear...just four levels past where I could have used it. In mean time I look like everyone else because better gear is not to be had for what you can make at low levels.

I fully understand that's how this game is and actually how most final fantasy games are (feeling old now), I'm not the one who going stop playing (I could be playing WOW, where all dwarves are the same), but saying that conquest does not effect diversity of characters at low levels is plain wrong. It might just be a bump in the road for seasoned players with access to higher lvl stuff on their mules and other characters but it still affects diversity in how a character looks.

Is it the end all be all reason lack of diversity in the game? No. Just a lowly contributing factor. this isn't CoH where you can even manipulate the mesh of the model but at least it's not Wow.

Now back to my plea: Conquest for Bastok on Hades!

[Tirjasdyn]

Re: Lacking Diversity.

If you're having issues affording early newbie gear, I would recommend looking into Fishing. It's a solid and respectable way to make money without worrying about your level.


Icemage

I'm having issues affording it because the gear is no longer available in the market after losing conquest. The folks selling it in the AH caught on immediatly and rasied all the prices.

[Celeal]

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AH is like a renting place.... you can sell back your gear via AH once you are done with them. It is not like consumable (food, ammo...) that once it is used, it is gone forever.